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Mike, all you should need to do is reposition the right and left front lift linkage arms if your lift rod is working. Presently you have them located using the bottom of the three holes. Try the middle one. This one works for me on my 982. You can also relocate the lift arms further toward the blower on main support rails which will give you even more lift. Those arms also have holes for adjustment. Just remember, the higher you lift the blower the less downward distance you will have to work with for lowering the blower on inclines when using.
 

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You know Russell, I think you have it. WHY would I not have tried the other holes in the bottom tube! I wish I had more pictures here in the house, but I don't even think I have them both in the same holes. Excuse me while I take myself out in the hard and kick my :moon:
Sad I say. Why didn't I notice that those holes are there for more adjustment - DUH!
I'll give that a try.
I was reading other articles on other forums about the 451 vs 450 - for the pulley being a different size - This one can throw snow just as good as my old 450 I sold a few years ago? I'm not having issues (so far) with the distance it can throw the stuff. So the gear ratio isn't causing problems for me. Fingers crossed It continues to work well.
Thanks for slap'n me Russell.
 

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Seems to me reading the manual would have saved a lot of time and headaches. (y)
I did read the manual, however....i read the 450 manual i had for my old blower - but is this a 450 or 451? Is the drive pulley needed the only difference?

I re-read the manual and I can't find where I have hooked it up wrong? I thought I had put the two lift rods on in different holes, not the case. I tried putting the lift rod on using the middle hole in the bottom, can't do it, the lift arms are too short then.
Ended up bending the lift rod tonight while blowing snow. I adjusted the length of lift rod enough to have it lift some in order to blow snow. Got driveway cleaned out, but not path to wood shed.
As it was I needed to remove stop block on right side to make it work.

Questions:
What is the measurement of the lift rod supposed to be? I know Digger said 450 and 451 were same parts, ok but what is the rough length or starting length supposed to be?
What is the correct length of the lift straps for a 450 vs a 451 attached to an 82 series super? Or are they the same part number? So just use the measurement in either manual?
Does anyone have pictures of their 450 on a 982? I would like to see what angle your lift tabs are on the blower in either fully up or down. I'm curious if mine are welded at the wrong angle in order for it to lift properly?
The 451, which I've been told I have, did it use the square extension on the bottom in order to attach to a super vs regular garden tractor? I have those installed, because i had them on my old 450 blower and the 1872 and the 982 before as the manual told me to use them, they worked right.
 

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I have a 451 Blower on my 2082. I took a lift rod off a 450 and needed to unthread the adjuster almost all the way out to get it to touch the ground. I will get pics 4 you.
Thank you - that will give me an idea perhaps. I know the 2082 is a bit of a different beast than a 982, but its still a super. Its a starting point for me. Appreciate anything you can show me. I'm grasping at straws here, no idea what is causing the issue.
 

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And this is mine now, in the down position. With the bend lift rod end.
 

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To me it looks like the piece that lift rod hooks to is back to far but i think if you can straighten the lift rod it may be ok. My lift rod is about out of threads to make mine work but so far so good.
 

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To me it looks like the piece that lift rod hooks to is back to far but i think if you can straighten the lift rod it may be ok. My lift rod is about out of threads to make mine work but so far so good.
I thought it was back too far as well, it is really close to the side sheilds and grill bottom
 

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The rod the left is off a 450 the one on the right was on my 451 when I purchased it but it was busted in someone welded it so it was not adjustable which would not allow the snow blower to sit on the ground
 

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Mike,
This is my 450 snowblower mounted on a 982. I have noted your "piviot arms" are mounted on the lower holes while mine are mounted on the top holes on the blower. I could not find anywhere in the manual where they recommend where to attach them on the blower side, maybe I just missed finding it? It certainly would affect the lift depending on the tractor the blower is used on.
 

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Mike,
This is my 450 snowblower mounted on a 982. I have noted your "piviot arms" are mounted on the lower holes while mine are mounted on the top holes on the blower. I could not find anywhere in the manual where they recommend where to attach them on the blower side, maybe I just missed finding it? It certainly would affect the lift depending on the tractor the blower is used on.
This is what is confusing me. If I use the lift straps in any other hole than bottom, it kicks the end where the lift rod attaches up too high and it won't lift because its almost over center. The hydraulics want to push it up, but the lift rod will almost bow outwards because of the almost flat angle its on. What is the overall length of your lift strap you are using? What is the pin to pin measurements? Yours looks right in my mind, mine doesn't. And you don't have issues with yours lifting? How high off the ground does it lift, 2 or 3 inches?
 

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