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Hello Everyone I am having a problem with a 1650 cub cadet. The tractor plow blade goes up but slowly creeps down. If their was a leak would I see it? I keep checking all the roll pins I have replaced two just wondering about hydraulic fluid.
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Ed- Typical for a tractor that is 40 years old. O rings in the valve body or cylinder could have internal leaks. Mine drifts down over time also. So far it hasn't caused me enough problem to warrant tearing anything apart. How fast does it drift down?
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Ed C. Sounds as if your implement relief spring is getting weak inside the hydro. You don't have to remove the pump to get at it.
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Ed,
It isn't the relief spring, it is likely a torn seal internal to the cylinder, leaking oil (internally) from one side of the piston to the other.
1650 cylinder isn't serviceable without a cylinder shop and lathe.
It isn't the relief spring, it is likely a torn seal internal to the cylinder, leaking oil (internally) from one side of the piston to the other.
1650 cylinder isn't serviceable without a cylinder shop and lathe.
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Keepsake 1650 has a slow and I mean slow leak and I know that the seal inside the cylinder is good. Fancy's 1650 has a strong lift and will hold for a long time. Difference between the two Cub Cadets are is the Keepsake did a lot of hydraulic lifting in its lifetime and Fancy's hardly ever used the lift. Keepsake did a lot of plowing and snow removal and Fancy's just mowing lawn. I could try Steve's theory and remove the hydraulic from a parts 1650 that also just mowed lawn and try it out.
No ambition to use the Cubs anymore lately. I can somewhat understand why that otheer member no longer posts anymore.
Ed C. Listen to others. I've spent twelve years learning about hydraulics inside and out.
No ambition to use the Cubs anymore lately. I can somewhat understand why that otheer member no longer posts anymore.
Ed C. Listen to others. I've spent twelve years learning about hydraulics inside and out.
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Marlin,
His blade lifts......if it lifts, then he has lift pressure. Once the hyd valve under the dash is closed, the hydro has nothing to do with the cylinder holding the blade up.....that is 100% on the cylinder seals and the valve.....not the hydro. One of two things are happening, cylinder seal is leaking, OR valve is leaking. Assuming the lift valve lever is allowing the valve to close 100%, then it is the valve or the cylinder. ( original poster, Check, the lever linkage....)!
Another thought, IIRC the control valve has a load check, if it is malfunctioning, it could be part of the issue.
His blade lifts......if it lifts, then he has lift pressure. Once the hyd valve under the dash is closed, the hydro has nothing to do with the cylinder holding the blade up.....that is 100% on the cylinder seals and the valve.....not the hydro. One of two things are happening, cylinder seal is leaking, OR valve is leaking. Assuming the lift valve lever is allowing the valve to close 100%, then it is the valve or the cylinder. ( original poster, Check, the lever linkage....)!
Another thought, IIRC the control valve has a load check, if it is malfunctioning, it could be part of the issue.
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Yes, you will need to verify all of the linkages.
Roll pins usually "jump" to the lower position, hydraulics tend to bleed off.
Make sure the hyd lift lever is returning all the way to N on the valve.....
Roll pins usually "jump" to the lower position, hydraulics tend to bleed off.
Make sure the hyd lift lever is returning all the way to N on the valve.....
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Al V.
A lot of OEM parts can be found on the sponsor tabs at the top of the page. There are parts that are no longer available, but they have excellent substitutes for these also.
As some have said, it is your tractor to do as you wish. We won't get upset with your decisions as long as you post pics!
And yes, you CAN make it "oretty"!
See,...
A lot of OEM parts can be found on the sponsor tabs at the top of the page. There are parts that are no longer available, but they have excellent substitutes for these also.
As some have said, it is your tractor to do as you wish. We won't get upset with your decisions as long as you post pics!
And yes, you CAN make it "oretty"!
See,...
