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Ok so set back tonight on my 1450...I was putting a battery box in and was taking the battery out,as i was loosening the bolts I dropped the wrench and it fell on both terminals of the battery it arced and I instantly snatched the wrench off.the battery seems ok but after getting the box in and repairing the battery cable I broke in the process,the tractor cranked once slightly and now won’t crank at all the solenoid is clicking and the battery seems to be up as it should....any ideas on what the H€ll i did to this thing now????
Harry,
Those are 126 Metal Halide ballast that I picked up for 17 bucks that have a 7 pound hunk of copper in them, LOL Winter project one day!
Jason and Kraig,
That 125 is one that Hugh Simon started to convert to hydraulic lift, and I never got around to finishing.
Those are 126 Metal Halide ballast that I picked up for 17 bucks that have a 7 pound hunk of copper in them, LOL Winter project one day!
Jason and Kraig,
That 125 is one that Hugh Simon started to convert to hydraulic lift, and I never got around to finishing.
glippert
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Charlie will be on the hoarder tv show some day.
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Ethan K. Maybe we'll have to put the 104 on the Transportation Network for you to get. Right now I'm just too hectic to even think much Cub Cadet stuff much less need anymore to clutter my mind...
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Charlie - 7# of copper, that's a nice chunk. Ooh, I sorta figured they all "Ran When Parked".
Kraig and Ethan - I recommend you visit Charlie's sheds about mid-Feb. That's the time for your best chance and least "risk". Before you go in make sure there's smoke coming out of Charlie's chimney.
Ethan - now, on the poor old 1450, as long as you didn't have the key switch in the on position when you dropped the wrench I don't think you would have hurt anything. I know you said the battery still seems up and good but first thing I'd do is try another known good battery. If the 1450 still acts the same (solenoid clicks but no start) then you're gonna have to trace down the problem. I'd start by giving the starter a little tap. The bendix could be stuck (somewhat common), and then proceed to the usual checks.
Kraig and Ethan - I recommend you visit Charlie's sheds about mid-Feb. That's the time for your best chance and least "risk". Before you go in make sure there's smoke coming out of Charlie's chimney.
Ethan - now, on the poor old 1450, as long as you didn't have the key switch in the on position when you dropped the wrench I don't think you would have hurt anything. I know you said the battery still seems up and good but first thing I'd do is try another known good battery. If the 1450 still acts the same (solenoid clicks but no start) then you're gonna have to trace down the problem. I'd start by giving the starter a little tap. The bendix could be stuck (somewhat common), and then proceed to the usual checks.
Hydro-I did the tap test....I think I have it traced down to a short in the battery/starter cable I was messing with them under the tractor I separated them from the mounting bracket and tried the tractor a it cranked several times but hen went back to the clicky no starty thing again
Hydro-I’ve got that poor old 1450 brought a long way back from the brink of the scrapyard I’ll have to email you some resent pictures of the progress from the first pictures I showed you it’s just one step forward and two steps back bull s**t that’s getting on my nerves...oh no my h,i,keys must have stuck LOL
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Ethan,
Another wire I would check is the large hot lead from the starter solenoid on the inside of the dash tower to the starter itself.
I had a 1650 I was working on was having starting issues. Someone before me (and not the owner) had fiddled with the wiring trying to fix the starting issue. They cut out one of the wires from the key to the voltage regulator, and had added an extra ground wire from the dash tower to frame, and then to the engine. When I replace the rotted ignition switch, and put a known good battery from one of my tractors in it, and the charger hooked up, it would either click, or crank over like the battery was almost dead. During this process, I happened to be looking at the back of the engine when I was trying to crank it over (had the fuel tank removed so I could see under the dash) to make sure there wasn't anything interfering or something mechanical I could see. One time when it started to roll over very slowly, I noticed an arc and a bit of smoke come up from firewall area. Where the wire passes through the hole in the firewall, it had been pulled tight against the hole by the extra ground wire. So most of the starting current was going into the firewall and to ground.... I replaced the heavy lead with one of the pre-made auto solenoid to starter leads from the auto parts/farm store. Once all the wiring was 100%, the battery charged and that new lead from the dash mounted solenoid to the starter, it spun over just like my tractors would. However, had I not seen the spark and smoke, it would have been difficult to find. I think the reason I saw it was, I was in the garage with the door down, and I happened to be casting a shadow where I was looking because of where I was standing. If it had been brightly lit, I would not have seen the spark......
Another wire I would check is the large hot lead from the starter solenoid on the inside of the dash tower to the starter itself.
I had a 1650 I was working on was having starting issues. Someone before me (and not the owner) had fiddled with the wiring trying to fix the starting issue. They cut out one of the wires from the key to the voltage regulator, and had added an extra ground wire from the dash tower to frame, and then to the engine. When I replace the rotted ignition switch, and put a known good battery from one of my tractors in it, and the charger hooked up, it would either click, or crank over like the battery was almost dead. During this process, I happened to be looking at the back of the engine when I was trying to crank it over (had the fuel tank removed so I could see under the dash) to make sure there wasn't anything interfering or something mechanical I could see. One time when it started to roll over very slowly, I noticed an arc and a bit of smoke come up from firewall area. Where the wire passes through the hole in the firewall, it had been pulled tight against the hole by the extra ground wire. So most of the starting current was going into the firewall and to ground.... I replaced the heavy lead with one of the pre-made auto solenoid to starter leads from the auto parts/farm store. Once all the wiring was 100%, the battery charged and that new lead from the dash mounted solenoid to the starter, it spun over just like my tractors would. However, had I not seen the spark and smoke, it would have been difficult to find. I think the reason I saw it was, I was in the garage with the door down, and I happened to be casting a shadow where I was looking because of where I was standing. If it had been brightly lit, I would not have seen the spark......
Scott-isn’t great when p/os do diy electrical diag and repair themselves.wire harness in this tractor looks like a wire paint by numbers,my 1450s p/o ,I think was the king of S**t riggers ,when I get to the double stick 1450 I got in this group....let’s just say Charlie’s going to me getting a big order I want all new stuff in that double stick LOL
