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Rick A - hey I can't take any engineering credit but thanks anyway. I have to leave engineering to the others you mentioned and some you didn't. I just like pushing their buttons, makin'm pull out their (slide) rules, theoretical analysis, voodoo kit, or what ever they have to make things work.
Bill J - ok now, I think you better adjust the governor and your speed control linkage on that 109. Sure sounds like you're going to fast to me. On the other hand, maybe because of your use of the off-topic stuff you are really just getting to experience what a Cub Cadet is - One Tough Tractor.
Bill J - ok now, I think you better adjust the governor and your speed control linkage on that 109. Sure sounds like you're going to fast to me. On the other hand, maybe because of your use of the off-topic stuff you are really just getting to experience what a Cub Cadet is - One Tough Tractor.
mpatterson
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Anyone have the difference in dimensions of a large and small air cleaner on K241A engine? How do you know which is which?
Mine is 6" outside diameter, 1-7/8" tall.
I am thinking mine is the large one - but how do I know for sure?
Mine is 6" outside diameter, 1-7/8" tall.
I am thinking mine is the large one - but how do I know for sure?
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With the recent talk regarding 169s and their 13-fin engines, I received an email from a regular forum member asking me to chime in with some info from the data I've been collecting on 169s and thier engines.
I have to admit, I've wanted to say something awhile back, but have kept quiet because what I would say goes against the current beliefs.
Right now there is not much data to work with, but what we have points to an almost EVEN DISTRUBUTION BETWEEN 12-FIN AND 13-FIN ENGINES in the 169 model line. Here is a screen-shot of the data with the owner's names removed:
I know it's hard to read so I'll sum it up by saying that we currently have 15 169s in the database and just over half of them have 13 fin engines, while the remaining tractors have 12-fin engines.
Here's my uneducated speculation... I think there has been a FALSE belief that the only original engine for a 169 is a 13-fin engine. There are just too many 12-fin engines showing up for me to believe that. While the 13-fin engines could be thought of as somewhat more desirable due to the fact that there is more meat on the engine to bore them out, it seems as though BOTH types of engines are original and "correct" to these tractors.
Heck, at this point one could almost say a 169 with the original 12-fin engine is a more "rare" tractor.
I have to admit, I've wanted to say something awhile back, but have kept quiet because what I would say goes against the current beliefs.
Right now there is not much data to work with, but what we have points to an almost EVEN DISTRUBUTION BETWEEN 12-FIN AND 13-FIN ENGINES in the 169 model line. Here is a screen-shot of the data with the owner's names removed:
I know it's hard to read so I'll sum it up by saying that we currently have 15 169s in the database and just over half of them have 13 fin engines, while the remaining tractors have 12-fin engines.
Here's my uneducated speculation... I think there has been a FALSE belief that the only original engine for a 169 is a 13-fin engine. There are just too many 12-fin engines showing up for me to believe that. While the 13-fin engines could be thought of as somewhat more desirable due to the fact that there is more meat on the engine to bore them out, it seems as though BOTH types of engines are original and "correct" to these tractors.
Heck, at this point one could almost say a 169 with the original 12-fin engine is a more "rare" tractor.
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Speaking of 169s....
I had the high-tech paint booth open this past week:
...and put some new rubber on the old girl:
I had the high-tech paint booth open this past week:
...and put some new rubber on the old girl:
Art, nice job on the rims.
Looks good with the new tires. Are you planning on refurbing the rest of the tractor?
Art-
The case with my 169 is it was long-blocked at some point, where the original engine was stripped of its sheetmetal and transferred to a new block. I'd have never guessed except for the fact the timing marks on the flywheel don't line up with those on the blower housing, and the flywheel is machined to accept a ring gear... Leading me to believe its a "correct" replacement for a 1650 that was changed over enough to be in a 169.
The case with my 169 is it was long-blocked at some point, where the original engine was stripped of its sheetmetal and transferred to a new block. I'd have never guessed except for the fact the timing marks on the flywheel don't line up with those on the blower housing, and the flywheel is machined to accept a ring gear... Leading me to believe its a "correct" replacement for a 1650 that was changed over enough to be in a 169.
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Wyatt-
That's an interesting perspective on your 169. Do you still have that tractor? If so, then I'm going to need some numbers from you!
Kraig-
Thanks. No, I will not be resto'ing the tractor. After redoing a total of 3 tractors so far, I'm "done" with redoing tractors for awhile. This one is going to get a good solid mechanical "going through". It has a few minor issues. That's the fun part anyway....
That's an interesting perspective on your 169. Do you still have that tractor? If so, then I'm going to need some numbers from you!
Kraig-
Thanks. No, I will not be resto'ing the tractor. After redoing a total of 3 tractors so far, I'm "done" with redoing tractors for awhile. This one is going to get a good solid mechanical "going through". It has a few minor issues. That's the fun part anyway....
