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Well I was gone all week and was finally able to work on the 149 this afternoon. Was able to get a spark by directly wiring the battery to the + side of the coil.

I then removed the gas tank to look at the solenoid and ignition switch. PO butchered the wiring and did not used a stock/OEM ignition switch. Can anyone send me a picture of the back of a 149 ignition switch so I can try and figure out how I am going to wire this up?

Sorry about the first picture being upside down.

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Did someone say Red Green

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I have a red 1282 I was wondering if a 16hp koler would bolt up in place of my 12hp? Does anyone know if the height of the shaft, and length of motors are the same?
 
Yes, 16hp AQS motor will bolt up....
 
I was mowing one day recently when I had to stop repeatedly to put the belt back on, it kept popping off the PTO and leaving pieces of itself all over the mower, as seen in:

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I managed to get both the back and the front yard cut in my wife's absence (she usually mows the front with a self-propelled mulching mower, while I use the 149 on the back yard). I thought to myself, "You know I ought to get a belt coming from Cub Cadet Specialties because it won't be long before the grass needs mowing again." Did I do this, of course not, that would be too easy! Instead, I wait until I'm driving up the eastern seaboard before I call Charlie on a Friday afternoon . . ..

I ask Charlie why the belt might suddenly be coming apart after serving me faithfully for at least three years (probably five or six the way my memory runs these days). Anyway, Charlie immediately opined that the pulleys weren't allowing the belt to run true, and that they likely needed adjustment. I mentioned that I had recently installed a new carriage and mule drive in an attempt to get the deck to cut more like my wife's self-propelled mower. He added that I might want to check the alignment front-to-back as well as the angle of the pulleys up front. I asked him if he thought the belt tension might be a factor, since I had noticed that the spring didn't seem as stiff on the "new" mule drive as on my New Old Stock unit. He didn't seem to think it would be much of a factor.

The following shots were snapped before the old belt was removed:

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Finally, a shot of the New Old Stock mule drive that I removed in order to install the "new" carriage which would lower the cutting height of the deck.

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(Note that the sticker is on upside-down, it took me a while to figure out that it wouldn't fit on the 782 for which I originally purchased it, but it fit the 149 perfectly, and I did not have any belt issues with it --a first for me!)

I will now pause my tale to include a bit of prehistory. The 782, like many 82 series tractors I'm told, did not allow the user to raise the deck very high. The remedy to this condition, suggested by this forum was to bend the rear arm of the carriage slightly in order to raise the front lifting arms. Many long-time forum users are familiar with the following photograph:

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I had erred, by taking the "bending of the pickle fork" to be a "de rigueur" modification which "those in the know" performed to all their carriages. I just wasn't thinking. I was fixing a problem I didn't have. (I will state, however, that I managed to bend the arm with only the aid of a blue-bottle propane torch!)

The result was a deck which was able to cut pretty high, alright, but was not able to get "down low" no matter how hard I tried. The situation led to marital strife (doesn't every situation?). My wife likes to cut the grass 1-1/2" high, I prefer 2-1/2" or even 3." No matter how many expert write-ups I show her, she remains unconvinced that the shorter the grass is cut the less often it will need to be cut. I maintain, with the experts behind me, that no more than 1/3 of the blade length should be cut at a time, and that 2" to 2-1/2" is the recommended height for lawns with centipede, zozia, and bermuda, while fescue can be even higher.

Leaving that all aside, I just wanted to be able to use the riding mower on the front so my wife wouldn't HAVE to push it. I can no longer push a mower around the yard (feet, back, knees --take your pick), I thought that changing out the carriage to one that I had NOT modified would bring the deck back down to where it could be set at the "required" 1-1/2" if need be.

Consequently, I was faced with a dilemma: should I drag out a stock carriage and swap it into my New Old Stock mule drive, or just change out the whole thing --mule drive, carriage and all? The "total swap" seemed easier at the time, and after briefly examining the pulleys to see if they turned freely and were "straight" I bolted it up and mowed the back yard (1/2 acre) about three times before the belt distintigrated (see above).

I put the new belt on and tried to see if Charlie was right. Looking at the angle of the pulleys, I decided that the one on the right, as I was looking in from the front of the tractor, the one with the adjustment rod attached, was decidedly off. It was angled too far "in" such that it would scrub the belt on exit. The one of the left, nearest the spring, with the ratchet handle, seemed to be OK for now. I devoted my initial energy to the "adjusted" side.

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Note too, how slack the belt seems in the second photo immediately above. Something really wasn't right with the belt tension. I know I've always been told to "make sure they're even," but the sticker on the front also clearly shows the "initial adjustment" to be at the first, or larger, "notch" on the ratchet handle. Mine was back so far that neither notch was showing. The first thing I did was add a 1/4" pipe nipple 3" long so that the belt was properly tensioned, see below:

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[Note to Reader: This post is intended to be read after the post which immediately follows it, my message was too long to fit in a single post according to the limits set by the Forum administrators (who failed to consult with me on this matter).
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. . . then I went to work on adjusting the pulley using the following tools.

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Another mystery was resolved upon reviewing the photos above for this post; I realized why I seemed to have lost even more adjustment with the new carriage --the dang thing is sitting on the ground! There is at least 1/4" gap between the front "fingers" and the hanging loops of the deck! Note too, that the loops are extended as far as possible in order to "get low" with the old carriage and it's bent pickle-fork at the rear.

My first attempts at adjustment didn't go as well as I had hoped: I either went too far in the right direction, or I introduced another error trying to correct the first.

Before adjusting, the pulley was "too straight," so I think my first move was to "twist it" in a bit, but I went too far, but it was still an improvement (see below).

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I also discovered that the best "view" of the pulley-to-belt alignment was "over the top" of the mule drive, but under the tractor frame. In other words, I was focusing on where the belt ENTERED the pulleys, not where it exited them toward the rear. (Although, I suppose one side exits as the other enters.)

I think my next move was to open it up a bit:

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I felt like I was getting close, but it needed just another tweek. Charlie had said they need to be perfectly aligned.

This time I think I twisted it out, and made it worse:

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Then I opened it up again and made it even more worse (as some would say, "worser"):

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I was finally satisfied with this:

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I monkeyed around with the pulley on the left side too, until I got it looking like this:

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I then proceeded to push my deck around the back yard cutting three weeks growth down to what seemed like 1/2" high. The new gator blades seemed to throw the grass out better, but there were still just so many clippings! More on that later, just wanted to relate the process that goes into what I hope will be a long belt life. The mulching mow job should certainly tell the tale.

Here is a shot of the pulleys and belt after about a 2-hour workout, with governor engaging several times and deck nearly stalling twice that I recall, it never stopped turning, though, and I didn't ever smell the belt burning up (melting).

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Retrospect & Prospect (phrasing which sounds more impressive in the German original):

I should have taken the deck out and checked it's height when I first swapped in the new carriage and mule drive. Now I have to remove the 1/4" plates under the rear hanging pins on the deck and tighten up the hanging loops on the front so that the deck is only on the ground when the lift is fully extended. Then I can mow the front lawn when my wife is absent, as she will be this weekend (visiting her mother). Hopefully, the new height of the deck itself will allow me to mow the back yard at about 3" which is where I believe it NEEDS to be mowed, if not every time, at least the first time around. Either that, or I'm going to have to set up one 44" deck for the back yard, and one 44" deck for the front yard (I have two) and swap them in as needed. I don't want to be swapping these carriages and mule drives any more than I really have to, as in component failure or urgent need.

I took some progress photos of the so-called "gator blade" swap which I shall post later, time permitting. I so identify with Kraig, work is taking up too much of my time. If it weren't for the fact that I need to eat at least twice every day, and prefer a clean, dry bed to sleep on, I would quit my job and "retire."

Edit: From the view of ths last shot, it looks like I could "turn out" the right-hand pulley just a bit, but the view may simply be a function of the camera angle. I found this subject (belt alignment) extremely difficult to capture on film (as they used to say).
 

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