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Is it just me, or do the lower outside corners of the rear fenders on the Original that Tom posted photos of, look too squared off?
Tom do you have a high resolution version of that photo?
Brad, I remember that tractor from PD1! IIRC PD1 was on March 31st in 2001.
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Kraig:
Lower, outer front edge?? Here's a couple of pics from the O Fender installation manual..
That top picture shows that lower edge to be pretty severly cut...
Also - from the date of the picture Tom posted, that could be a pre-production model..
Lower, outer front edge?? Here's a couple of pics from the O Fender installation manual..
That top picture shows that lower edge to be pretty severly cut...
Also - from the date of the picture Tom posted, that could be a pre-production model..
Kendell, that's why I asked. Look at the photo of Bryan's Original at the top of the page.... The fender corner is clipped at about 45 degrees, as are the fenders on my Original.
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Kendell Ide,
One is the 129; sub frame, mule drive and deck. The other is the 104; sub frame, mule drive and deck. The deck from the 129 looks the prettiest. The one for the 104 looks and feels like it is a cast deck but needs repainting.
I also have a haunting feeling.... Seems to me I recall telling the PO I was going to use the 104 for snow plowing and if my swiss cheese brain is right, he said "Oh so you won't need the pto". I picked these up in January and when I got them home I got the 104 running and told myself either something is gonna squeal or brake and lowered the deck on the 104 and engaged the pto. Nothing.
It should be nice today and I'll man handle these decks into the yard see what's what as a sub frame match install either one on the 104 after removing the blade (another piece that ain't too light) and get religious and pray to God it works.
One is the 129; sub frame, mule drive and deck. The other is the 104; sub frame, mule drive and deck. The deck from the 129 looks the prettiest. The one for the 104 looks and feels like it is a cast deck but needs repainting.
I also have a haunting feeling.... Seems to me I recall telling the PO I was going to use the 104 for snow plowing and if my swiss cheese brain is right, he said "Oh so you won't need the pto". I picked these up in January and when I got them home I got the 104 running and told myself either something is gonna squeal or brake and lowered the deck on the 104 and engaged the pto. Nothing.
It should be nice today and I'll man handle these decks into the yard see what's what as a sub frame match install either one on the 104 after removing the blade (another piece that ain't too light) and get religious and pray to God it works.
Richard, any chance you could post photos of your two decks? IF you have a 42" (or even a 38") deck and a 44" deck you should be able to use either on the 129 but I believe only the 42" (and 38") deck will work on the 104. The 38" and 42" decks are kind of shaped like a triangle with the points squared off, the 44" decks are more of an oval shape with rounded ends. Here are some photos to help you ID what you have.
First up are two photos of a 42" deck, the 38" deck looks pretty much the same.
Next we have two photos of a 44" deck (actually the photo from the manual is a 50" deck but the 44" and 50" decks looks the same).
First up are two photos of a 42" deck, the 38" deck looks pretty much the same.
Next we have two photos of a 44" deck (actually the photo from the manual is a 50" deck but the 44" and 50" decks looks the same).
Kraig, Kendell,
The picture of the "O" with the squared fender corners that Tom posted, is thought to be S/N 411 that later belonged to Harold Schramm. Although numbered 411, it is older than 409 and the other Louisville prototypes, and thought to be a Hinsdale built engineering prototype. The 4XX numbers were stamped into the gear reduction housings when the Engineering Center was through with them and as they were sold to employee's. There is documentation that 411 was sold after the 10 Louisville proto's, hence the higher number.
Kendell,
No the "O" and 70/100 fenders are not interchangable, the inner skirt is different.
The picture of the "O" with the squared fender corners that Tom posted, is thought to be S/N 411 that later belonged to Harold Schramm. Although numbered 411, it is older than 409 and the other Louisville prototypes, and thought to be a Hinsdale built engineering prototype. The 4XX numbers were stamped into the gear reduction housings when the Engineering Center was through with them and as they were sold to employee's. There is documentation that 411 was sold after the 10 Louisville proto's, hence the higher number.
Kendell,
No the "O" and 70/100 fenders are not interchangable, the inner skirt is different.
Kendell, NO, the Original fenders are unique and will not interchange with 70/100 fenders, at least not without doing some drilling. The Original uses that mounting pan between the fenders to mount to the transmission. The 70/100 uses angle brackets that mount to the frame and strap brackets that mount to the axle. Here's a photo of my Original fenders.
Paul, thanks for the info on that Original that Tom posted a photo of. Now I have to go look for a photo of Harold's Original (I know I have some) to look at the fenders....
Found 'em! Photos taken by Jim Chabot.
Harold and his Cub #411. Sadly Harold is no longer with us.
Paul, didn't Jim Chabot buy Harold's Cub shortly before Harold passed away?
Harold and his Cub #411. Sadly Harold is no longer with us.
Paul, didn't Jim Chabot buy Harold's Cub shortly before Harold passed away?
TOM H. - Neighbors can't say too much about noise a time or two a year. The closest ones live closer to the farm behind us than We do and We listen to the combine run in the fall till about Midnight. Best night was when the 3588 2+2 was chisel plowing years ago....the DT-466 was straight-piped. Unfortunately the whole farm is only 80-100 acres and He got done and left about 1 AM.
BRENDAN - Before I'd mess around recycling old batteries or car tire balance weights to make lead weights I'd look for some sort of local steel fabrication shop, or a scrap yard, or a steel service center or warehouse and see if You can find some sort of steel shapes for weight. ANY FREE steel or iron from their scrap hopper will add weight. Even if they charge You scrap price to raid their hopper last I knew that was 2-1/2 Cents a pound. That makes a 26# IH CC weight worth 65 CENTS!!!.
BRENDAN - Before I'd mess around recycling old batteries or car tire balance weights to make lead weights I'd look for some sort of local steel fabrication shop, or a scrap yard, or a steel service center or warehouse and see if You can find some sort of steel shapes for weight. ANY FREE steel or iron from their scrap hopper will add weight. Even if they charge You scrap price to raid their hopper last I knew that was 2-1/2 Cents a pound. That makes a 26# IH CC weight worth 65 CENTS!!!.
Kendell and Kraig Thats what I have. The one from the 129 has rounded ?hand grips? like in the top photo. I'm probably shooting for the moon but I'd love to get the 44-50" for the 104 to look like the last picture. Thanks guys! - Peace -
Richard, are you saying that your 129 has the squared off triangle shaped deck with the yellow belt guards and your 104 has the all white rounded deck? If so, that's backwards!
Also, what you refer to as "hand grips" are actually called runners, they are supposed to help guide the deck over the ground. However they do work well as hand grips when handling the mower decks when they are not mounted.
<font size="-2">BTW, edit your tag line, I do believe you have a grammatical error as in "...the the...", I assume that you meant "...of the..."???</font>
<font size="-2">BTW, edit your tag line, I do believe you have a grammatical error as in "...the the...", I assume that you meant "...of the..."???</font>
Kraig
Jim bought 411 after Harold passed away. The picture of Harold on the tractor was taken at RPRU in Mt Pleasant, Iowa as he was on the way to his truck on Saturday afternoon to load it, and leave. He flew to Delaware on Sunday to attend a conference starting on Monday, and passed away Sunday night/Monday morning. Jim and I had two days of some quality "early Cub Cadet" time with him.
There are some casting flaws in the grill of 411, that are visable in some of the early IH Cub Cadet prototype pictures, that identify it as the tractor in the pictures.
Jim bought 411 after Harold passed away. The picture of Harold on the tractor was taken at RPRU in Mt Pleasant, Iowa as he was on the way to his truck on Saturday afternoon to load it, and leave. He flew to Delaware on Sunday to attend a conference starting on Monday, and passed away Sunday night/Monday morning. Jim and I had two days of some quality "early Cub Cadet" time with him.
There are some casting flaws in the grill of 411, that are visable in some of the early IH Cub Cadet prototype pictures, that identify it as the tractor in the pictures.
