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Donald T. please take this as a compliment because I enjoy your posts. I have to read them a couple times to get your message,,,, but that is fun. HOWEVER......what the heck does this mean.....
But B**r (Scott) si helping me bear it all
Thanks Art for the photo shoot / how to,,, and Kevin for leading me there.
That upper snap ring was a bear but I had the last say in the deal.
However, I did not use a snap ring remover... the nice new shiny /expensive one from Sears that actually was able to get to the snap ring broke on the first squeeze. *&^%$%%^ I reverted to a sharp chisel on the backside of the ring on a 45deg. angle with some pent up anger and whalla.
I must say that this is the first time this deep into a Kohler and I love it after reading some 10yrs. of the forum.
More fun pictures to come.......
But B**r (Scott) si helping me bear it all
Thanks Art for the photo shoot / how to,,, and Kevin for leading me there.
That upper snap ring was a bear but I had the last say in the deal.
However, I did not use a snap ring remover... the nice new shiny /expensive one from Sears that actually was able to get to the snap ring broke on the first squeeze. *&^%$%%^ I reverted to a sharp chisel on the backside of the ring on a 45deg. angle with some pent up anger and whalla.
I must say that this is the first time this deep into a Kohler and I love it after reading some 10yrs. of the forum.
More fun pictures to come.......
Richard T.-
Make sure you get both spacers (if it had them) and all of the shim washers off of the posts. They can be sort of glued with oil and easy to miss. You now have roughly 1 1/2 very nice paper weights.
Make sure you get both spacers (if it had them) and all of the shim washers off of the posts. They can be sort of glued with oil and easy to miss. You now have roughly 1 1/2 very nice paper weights.
Richard Tunison
Ok
(But B**r (Scott) si helping me bear it all )
but beer ( scott, and camping trip killed a few and loved them also)nothing like a cool one( si helping me bear it all ) again on a hot day and some done that needed to be done a
is nice for us
. Just got out of a 91 deg pool lol. did some floating on my island with 3 cold ones. lol enjoy life!
Ok
(But B**r (Scott) si helping me bear it all )
but beer ( scott, and camping trip killed a few and loved them also)nothing like a cool one( si helping me bear it all ) again on a hot day and some done that needed to be done a
Frank C
( call wave alert sucks) send over that pump off you 125 ,if your not using it.When Art A. gets the rear pump going I will follow the smart guy and be done .Cubs are a great tool that I enjoy. Dang I pity the ones who don`t know about them.I have a couple mode mods up my sleeve, taa
( call wave alert sucks) send over that pump off you 125 ,if your not using it.When Art A. gets the rear pump going I will follow the smart guy and be done .Cubs are a great tool that I enjoy. Dang I pity the ones who don`t know about them.I have a couple mode mods up my sleeve, taa
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By Dennis Frisk (Dfrisk) on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 03:54 am:
TRISTAN - WHAT are we doing on the forum at THREE AM?!?!
My MWSC clutch has a movable spring retainer, clamps on with two 1/4" capscrews, I can increase/decrease tension on the pressure spring but haven't changed it since Julian assembled it. Like I said even with the extended T/O arm the clutch is too still IMHO. And I can't run my dirt/grass plate under the clutch anymore. Also the linkage ratios are all out of whack between the clutch & brake functions. Might be O-K on a puller but not O-K on a working tractor.
To get by, you would have to put 3 or 4 flatwashers between the pressure spring and the rollpin retainer for the spring, it really doesn't increase the spring rate but increases clutch pressure.
Also, any time you have a clutch in a CC apart it's a good idea to replace the teaser spring, unless you just installed it last week.
My 2008 MWSC cat. shows the red spring is 800#, yellow is 1120# force, stock is either 400# or 600#, darn CRS. Either red or yellow spring is $26.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
<font size="-1">Dennis... I dont know what YOU are doing on the forum at 3AM but its the middle of the day for me lol. I work a rotating shift and on nights mon-thur this week 6pm-6am. I guess people need their power on at night too so they dont let us just shut down the power plants and go home at normal times! Of course about 75% of what I do is sitting around waiting for something to happen so plenty of time to be catching up on the cub forum...
When I get home tomorrow I'll try to take a closer look at my clutch and see if I can shim it and if that will help a little for now then great.</font>
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By Matt Gonitzke (Mgonitzke) on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 08:30 am:
Tristan/Dennis-
I have a red spring in my 582 with otherwise stock clutch, and I have the spring compressed a bit over 3/4", so it's at about 650#. It handles the tractor's 18 hp without slipping in any gear. It isn't really much harder to actuate than the stock spring. I have a locking collar at the rear of the spring instead of a spirol pin so I can use my clutch spring compressor to change the amount of compression while the clutch is in the tractor.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
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Hmm that doesnt sound too bad. I'm kinda torn on what to do with my clutch, dont want to make it too difficult to use but it needs improvement... I'll see how it does with shimming the spring.</font>}
By Dennis Frisk (Dfrisk) on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 03:54 am:
TRISTAN - WHAT are we doing on the forum at THREE AM?!?!
My MWSC clutch has a movable spring retainer, clamps on with two 1/4" capscrews, I can increase/decrease tension on the pressure spring but haven't changed it since Julian assembled it. Like I said even with the extended T/O arm the clutch is too still IMHO. And I can't run my dirt/grass plate under the clutch anymore. Also the linkage ratios are all out of whack between the clutch & brake functions. Might be O-K on a puller but not O-K on a working tractor.
To get by, you would have to put 3 or 4 flatwashers between the pressure spring and the rollpin retainer for the spring, it really doesn't increase the spring rate but increases clutch pressure.
Also, any time you have a clutch in a CC apart it's a good idea to replace the teaser spring, unless you just installed it last week.
My 2008 MWSC cat. shows the red spring is 800#, yellow is 1120# force, stock is either 400# or 600#, darn CRS. Either red or yellow spring is $26.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
<font size="-1">Dennis... I dont know what YOU are doing on the forum at 3AM but its the middle of the day for me lol. I work a rotating shift and on nights mon-thur this week 6pm-6am. I guess people need their power on at night too so they dont let us just shut down the power plants and go home at normal times! Of course about 75% of what I do is sitting around waiting for something to happen so plenty of time to be catching up on the cub forum...
When I get home tomorrow I'll try to take a closer look at my clutch and see if I can shim it and if that will help a little for now then great.</font>
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By Matt Gonitzke (Mgonitzke) on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 08:30 am:
Tristan/Dennis-
I have a red spring in my 582 with otherwise stock clutch, and I have the spring compressed a bit over 3/4", so it's at about 650#. It handles the tractor's 18 hp without slipping in any gear. It isn't really much harder to actuate than the stock spring. I have a locking collar at the rear of the spring instead of a spirol pin so I can use my clutch spring compressor to change the amount of compression while the clutch is in the tractor.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
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Hmm that doesnt sound too bad. I'm kinda torn on what to do with my clutch, dont want to make it too difficult to use but it needs improvement... I'll see how it does with shimming the spring.</font>}
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Chris: Congratulations!!!!!!!!!
"got more work to do on it" You'll be able to say that for the rest of your or its life! Once they run and mow they have to be "tweaked", attachments added, accessories - lights, hitches, weights - the list never ends. Then there's always the possibility of taking it completely apart, painting it and putting it back together. Then you make friends that call you, knowing you're on dial up, you disconnect, call them back and talk to their answering machine. Wilbur, I hope you get a foot of rain! (Not really).
"got more work to do on it" You'll be able to say that for the rest of your or its life! Once they run and mow they have to be "tweaked", attachments added, accessories - lights, hitches, weights - the list never ends. Then there's always the possibility of taking it completely apart, painting it and putting it back together. Then you make friends that call you, knowing you're on dial up, you disconnect, call them back and talk to their answering machine. Wilbur, I hope you get a foot of rain! (Not really).
lpalma
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Don do you have the hiccups,Get ready...
Earl's arrival could mark the start of at least 24 hours of stormy, windy weather along the East Coast. During its march up the Atlantic, it could snarl travelers' Labor Day weekend plans and strike a second forceful blow to the vacation homes and cottages on Long Island, Nantucket Island and Cape Cod. Forecast models showed the most likely place Earl will make landfall is western Nova Scotia, Canada, where it could still be a hurricane
Do you have a pump,or generator that you can hook up to one of your cubs?
Richard Tunison,
Gee mine came out of my mag 12 a lot easier,still in one piece.
Earl's arrival could mark the start of at least 24 hours of stormy, windy weather along the East Coast. During its march up the Atlantic, it could snarl travelers' Labor Day weekend plans and strike a second forceful blow to the vacation homes and cottages on Long Island, Nantucket Island and Cape Cod. Forecast models showed the most likely place Earl will make landfall is western Nova Scotia, Canada, where it could still be a hurricane
Do you have a pump,or generator that you can hook up to one of your cubs?
Richard Tunison,
Gee mine came out of my mag 12 a lot easier,still in one piece.
The long awaited and overdue post is finally here, for better or worse, it has to be said!
Over the years, I've watched a lot going on this site as well as behind the scenes.
It makes me wonder sometimes why I and others even bother to keep these sites up for others for free!
In one breath, your applauded for doing a good job and in the next your bitch slapped for trying to help the people that keep it free for everyone else. If you search the vault, and I have, you will find no less than 200 references to other parts suppliers that are not sponsors.
Long before I had anything to do with this site internally, I touted up the sponsors at every turn and post. Only because they are the ones that do way more than most ever see or think about to keep this hobby going.
I see post here and on other sites complaining that the forum is way to strict with it's rules.
Structure is the back bone of any forum or civilization and without it, it turns into chaos and confusion and then into oblivion.
I take attacks on the site very personal. I probably shouldn't, but in my eyes, the forum is and always will be the premiere website for Cub Cadets. Even with it's/my faults, no one will ever take that away.
If anyone reading this would like to step up and commit to a long term commitment in helping to run/police the forum, feel free to send me an email telling me why you would want to get hate mail everyday from people bitching that they don't like the format of the site, why the don't like the answers they get or the speed in which they get them, why I'm such an ass for declining a membership because they didn't bother to read simple instructions, why the forum is not set up like the Registry, Only Cub Cadets or any other GT related website. Why it's to much of a hassle to do search to get information they need, and why we won't tell them why their Cub acts funny on a cloudy day.
I could go on for another 3 pages on why I'm such a jerk as could several others on here, but I see no point and it would fall on deaf ears anyway.
We are NOT here to spoon feed anyone! We're here to give help, guidance and advice to the best of our ability, and if it's not to your liking, start a forum of your own and let us come play on your side of the street as it's called.
I take attacks to the forum personally. I took the forum on to keep it from being shut down when our founder Bob got to the point of saying all the crap just wasn't worth it.
Not until recently did I understand Bob and Bryan's frustration in trying to keep something going for the world to enjoy and learn from, without having to weed through trivial post about everything other than Cub Cadets.
I realize that after so many years, that it's tough to keep things fresh and the old guys (Including myself) get frustrated at the lack of initiative from the new guys and some of the old on finding the information that we have all over the place.
I've been in business for myself since I was 23 years old and had 100's of employees over the years, and I have to say that this has been the hardest job I ever had, bar none!
As far as post getting moderated/edited/poofed.
If I or others have issues with someone and the word gets around and we all know it does! LOL
There's TWO sides to every story and even if your so called friends tell you one thing, there's the other guys side to hear before judgment is reached.
I have that honor/duty to preform the moderating duties on a daily bases and if that job offends the person that made the post, I'm the one that made the decision to do it, for one reason only, and that reason is to keep the forum in line with the original guidelines/rules and to protect others from getting hung or taken advantage of.
This is NOT MY FORUM!
It's OUR FORUM and in order for things to run smooth, we have to get along. From time to time there's a hitch in the get-a-long, but all in all, I'm proud to be a small part of one of the GREATEST no little to no nonsense websites on the planet. Many may not agree with that statement and that's your right. But it's still a fact, LOL.
On a side note and since it's in the WTH happened to the Registry thread.
I sent an email to the powers that be and others for the Registry offering a helping hand by offering up the Cub Cadet group on Yahoo as a backup site and got no reply from 5 of the 6 I emailed and the one reply was "Mind your own F'n business".
Which is the same reply I got from Mark years ago after a 3 hour phone call where we talked about bridging the gap between forums and the next day my User ID and over 10,0000 post were permanently removed from the Registry.
The funny thing is, they all forget where they came from, as well and forget that 90% of the manuals and information was given to them by Kraig M. and a few others for FREE!
And it took a threat and then Marks attorney getting involved to even get Kraig's name mentioned on the manual section as a contributor, which the last I looked had been removed.
Even Byran has offered a helping hand from time to time to the Registry and also got snubbed for his trouble! And we all know how hard that was for Bryan to do in the first place!
The thing is, I hold no grudge or ill feelings for anyone on the Registry, I figure it's their website and they can do with it what they wish. And I for one wish them all the luck in the world.
But to say one thing in public or online and do something contrary behind the scenes is not the way to operate in this small world we live in, IMHO. But then again, I may be wrong. I've been wrong many times before.
I will have to say that is really saddens me to think that so many good people have to put up with a few bad apples in order to prove what they think is the ONLY right thing to be done to benefit their master plan, what ever that may be.
The comparison is no to berate or belittle, it's just a comparison, nothing more, nothing less.
In fact, you can click the link and put in Weekend Freedom Machines and find that the forum surpasses even them which floored me!
ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS!
http://siteanalytics.compete.com/ihcubcadet.com+ihregistry.com/
Notice the month of July.
And the funny thing about what's transpired in the last day or two is, The guys that feel picked on are now posting on the Red Power Registry thread on how badly they have been treated.
I'll close this totally forgettable trivial post by saying something said by someone many years ago.
"It's just a damn garden tractor for god sake!"
Over the years, I've watched a lot going on this site as well as behind the scenes.
It makes me wonder sometimes why I and others even bother to keep these sites up for others for free!
In one breath, your applauded for doing a good job and in the next your bitch slapped for trying to help the people that keep it free for everyone else. If you search the vault, and I have, you will find no less than 200 references to other parts suppliers that are not sponsors.
Long before I had anything to do with this site internally, I touted up the sponsors at every turn and post. Only because they are the ones that do way more than most ever see or think about to keep this hobby going.
I see post here and on other sites complaining that the forum is way to strict with it's rules.
Structure is the back bone of any forum or civilization and without it, it turns into chaos and confusion and then into oblivion.
I take attacks on the site very personal. I probably shouldn't, but in my eyes, the forum is and always will be the premiere website for Cub Cadets. Even with it's/my faults, no one will ever take that away.
If anyone reading this would like to step up and commit to a long term commitment in helping to run/police the forum, feel free to send me an email telling me why you would want to get hate mail everyday from people bitching that they don't like the format of the site, why the don't like the answers they get or the speed in which they get them, why I'm such an ass for declining a membership because they didn't bother to read simple instructions, why the forum is not set up like the Registry, Only Cub Cadets or any other GT related website. Why it's to much of a hassle to do search to get information they need, and why we won't tell them why their Cub acts funny on a cloudy day.
I could go on for another 3 pages on why I'm such a jerk as could several others on here, but I see no point and it would fall on deaf ears anyway.
We are NOT here to spoon feed anyone! We're here to give help, guidance and advice to the best of our ability, and if it's not to your liking, start a forum of your own and let us come play on your side of the street as it's called.
I take attacks to the forum personally. I took the forum on to keep it from being shut down when our founder Bob got to the point of saying all the crap just wasn't worth it.
Not until recently did I understand Bob and Bryan's frustration in trying to keep something going for the world to enjoy and learn from, without having to weed through trivial post about everything other than Cub Cadets.
I realize that after so many years, that it's tough to keep things fresh and the old guys (Including myself) get frustrated at the lack of initiative from the new guys and some of the old on finding the information that we have all over the place.
I've been in business for myself since I was 23 years old and had 100's of employees over the years, and I have to say that this has been the hardest job I ever had, bar none!
As far as post getting moderated/edited/poofed.
If I or others have issues with someone and the word gets around and we all know it does! LOL
There's TWO sides to every story and even if your so called friends tell you one thing, there's the other guys side to hear before judgment is reached.
I have that honor/duty to preform the moderating duties on a daily bases and if that job offends the person that made the post, I'm the one that made the decision to do it, for one reason only, and that reason is to keep the forum in line with the original guidelines/rules and to protect others from getting hung or taken advantage of.
This is NOT MY FORUM!
It's OUR FORUM and in order for things to run smooth, we have to get along. From time to time there's a hitch in the get-a-long, but all in all, I'm proud to be a small part of one of the GREATEST no little to no nonsense websites on the planet. Many may not agree with that statement and that's your right. But it's still a fact, LOL.
On a side note and since it's in the WTH happened to the Registry thread.
I sent an email to the powers that be and others for the Registry offering a helping hand by offering up the Cub Cadet group on Yahoo as a backup site and got no reply from 5 of the 6 I emailed and the one reply was "Mind your own F'n business".
Which is the same reply I got from Mark years ago after a 3 hour phone call where we talked about bridging the gap between forums and the next day my User ID and over 10,0000 post were permanently removed from the Registry.
The funny thing is, they all forget where they came from, as well and forget that 90% of the manuals and information was given to them by Kraig M. and a few others for FREE!
And it took a threat and then Marks attorney getting involved to even get Kraig's name mentioned on the manual section as a contributor, which the last I looked had been removed.
Even Byran has offered a helping hand from time to time to the Registry and also got snubbed for his trouble! And we all know how hard that was for Bryan to do in the first place!
The thing is, I hold no grudge or ill feelings for anyone on the Registry, I figure it's their website and they can do with it what they wish. And I for one wish them all the luck in the world.
But to say one thing in public or online and do something contrary behind the scenes is not the way to operate in this small world we live in, IMHO. But then again, I may be wrong. I've been wrong many times before.
I will have to say that is really saddens me to think that so many good people have to put up with a few bad apples in order to prove what they think is the ONLY right thing to be done to benefit their master plan, what ever that may be.
The comparison is no to berate or belittle, it's just a comparison, nothing more, nothing less.
In fact, you can click the link and put in Weekend Freedom Machines and find that the forum surpasses even them which floored me!
ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS!
http://siteanalytics.compete.com/ihcubcadet.com+ihregistry.com/
Notice the month of July.
And the funny thing about what's transpired in the last day or two is, The guys that feel picked on are now posting on the Red Power Registry thread on how badly they have been treated.
I'll close this totally forgettable trivial post by saying something said by someone many years ago.
"It's just a damn garden tractor for god sake!"
fcurrier
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From Bryan's profile:
"Reading the documentation fully is a prerequisite to getting help for your particular situation. I know it's harsh but you will have to get so far on your own before you can get reasonable help from a list full of busy people. A mailing list is not a tool to speed up your day by being spoon fed."
Deletable with no problem/regrets. Frank
"Reading the documentation fully is a prerequisite to getting help for your particular situation. I know it's harsh but you will have to get so far on your own before you can get reasonable help from a list full of busy people. A mailing list is not a tool to speed up your day by being spoon fed."
Deletable with no problem/regrets. Frank
Charlie "Digger" Proctor (Cproctor)-
I would not have been able to get as far as I have with my cub, without this site.
I just came here now to post another question.
as for hate mail and abuse, people are stupid. there is nothing you can do, except enjoy deleting them. or give them the wrong part numbers.
I once worked for the FDIC. when they took over a failing bank, they would be in the bank for 24 hours from Friday until Monday morning. they accounted for the money and turned the bank over to the new owner, and went looking for any missing funds. I provided security. because so many alarms are automatic and cant be shut off, I would just leave all the lights on so any cop checking an alarm could clearly see there was not a hold up.
the point of this story is, people would come to the door at 2am and demand to be let in, because the bank is open.
when did you ever see a bank open at 2am?
another great one was when they took over the bank at say, 1pm ,and I would turn customers away explaining the bank had failed, FDIC took them over and it would reopen on Monday, they yelled about the hours on the door saying 3pm.
stupid. there is nothing you can do.
if you closed this site, they would just call you at home complaining the site was down.
for what ever it is worth, I appreciate you and understand the abuse you receive from stupid people.
you have to be a strict moderator, I have seen all out wars on other sites that have nothing to do with the subject.
I would not have been able to get as far as I have with my cub, without this site.
I just came here now to post another question.
as for hate mail and abuse, people are stupid. there is nothing you can do, except enjoy deleting them. or give them the wrong part numbers.
I once worked for the FDIC. when they took over a failing bank, they would be in the bank for 24 hours from Friday until Monday morning. they accounted for the money and turned the bank over to the new owner, and went looking for any missing funds. I provided security. because so many alarms are automatic and cant be shut off, I would just leave all the lights on so any cop checking an alarm could clearly see there was not a hold up.
the point of this story is, people would come to the door at 2am and demand to be let in, because the bank is open.
when did you ever see a bank open at 2am?
another great one was when they took over the bank at say, 1pm ,and I would turn customers away explaining the bank had failed, FDIC took them over and it would reopen on Monday, they yelled about the hours on the door saying 3pm.
stupid. there is nothing you can do.
if you closed this site, they would just call you at home complaining the site was down.
for what ever it is worth, I appreciate you and understand the abuse you receive from stupid people.
you have to be a strict moderator, I have seen all out wars on other sites that have nothing to do with the subject.
I have a 128, gear drive, front PTO for the mower. problem with engine, no one can figure it out.
I am considering a 129,hydro, no PTO for a mower. I have not seen it yet, only photos. owner does not know much about it. I might put its engine in the 128, or put the mower on the 129, and use the 128 for parts.
from the photos, it appears he has the PTO engaging lever on the left, like my 128, put no linkage, or the lever to push against the pulley to engage the PTO. he has the pulley out the front of the engine, like my 128, with a space for the belt, but nothing else.
my question is, is this how they were made, and the rest would be added if you wanted a mower as an option? so, all I would need is the clutch and linkage from my 128?
or does it have a different type of clutch for the PTO?
it also has what appears to be an implement raise/lower handle on the right, which I do not understand if it does not have the front PTO. the handle has what appears to be an adjustment/locking knob at the base.
my 128 has the electric mower lift, and it has a similar knob.
so, can any one figure out what I am looking at?
I am considering a 129,hydro, no PTO for a mower. I have not seen it yet, only photos. owner does not know much about it. I might put its engine in the 128, or put the mower on the 129, and use the 128 for parts.
from the photos, it appears he has the PTO engaging lever on the left, like my 128, put no linkage, or the lever to push against the pulley to engage the PTO. he has the pulley out the front of the engine, like my 128, with a space for the belt, but nothing else.
my question is, is this how they were made, and the rest would be added if you wanted a mower as an option? so, all I would need is the clutch and linkage from my 128?
or does it have a different type of clutch for the PTO?
it also has what appears to be an implement raise/lower handle on the right, which I do not understand if it does not have the front PTO. the handle has what appears to be an adjustment/locking knob at the base.
my 128 has the electric mower lift, and it has a similar knob.
so, can any one figure out what I am looking at?
