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Jay Fetters

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Well, they could I guess. But there are many behind the scenes foreign companies with quality and reputations that rival American companies. 10 years ago, the average consumer had never heard of LS, now they are one of the more desired value brands. And they started by supplying engines to new Holland and others. The same could be said for yanmar 50 years ago. I feel iseki is gonna be the next big foreign player in the American utility tractor world. And it sucks to say that as someone who still looks at tags to see if it's made in America, then I put the item back on the shelf when it's made overseas.
 

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I purchased a new Kubota B7500 20 years ago and it has been flawless! I believe the tractor and 60" shaft driven deck(still has the original deck belt on it at 1500+ hours) was around $10k when new. I see the same machine for sale today anywhere from $5k to $8k. They hold their value very well and are awesome machines that burn very little fuel. I would not hesitate to purchase a new B or BX series machine.
 

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Where is Kubota made ?
Kubota makes their utility tractors, garden tractors, and utv's in Georgia. They make their own engines in a plant in Illinois. Most of their attachments, minus the front loader, are made in Japan and assembled in Georgia. Kubota is extremely reliable as a general rule, minus the b3350. The b3350 is still a good reliable machine, but it has issues with the regen cycle. It will start a regen during use, and you are stuck waiting for it to finish. It's well documented with many complaints. The tractor is reliable, you just gotta wait a while for it to do its thing, then get back to work. I wish I knew how to link a YouTube video here, but I don't. Good works tractors has a video about 5 tractors to stay away from, he gives a decent description of this problem.
 

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Basically it's a process the tractor does to clean an exhaust filter to meet emissions. Think of it like if your car had to stop and go through a cycle to burn soot out of the catalytic convertor. Most can do it on the fly or will tell you to do it before you shut her down. For some reason the b3350 does it when required, and there you sit for 40 minutes or so until it's done.
 

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Thats what im affraid of. Spend 30-50k on something thats just not gonna be fixed by the home mechanic.
John deere is in the middle of a very important lawsuit right now. They are being sued because they won't release their diagnostic software. They say it's proprietary and what not. But without the soft ware, you can't diagnose a simple check engine light. You have to take it in, or have them come out to you, at your expense. It doesn't sound like a big deal, but think if the auto industry did that, where you couldn't even scan a code, or look at the data stream. Where would we home technicians be? How many cubs could we afford if we had to take our trust trusty cub haulers to the dealer for everything?
 

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Thats what im affraid of. Spend 30-50k on something thats just not gonna be fixed by the home mechanic.
cUBS...THAT IS ALREADY IN FORCE all motorcycles are now using electronics that we can't touch,most new cars are impossible....a life long wrench friend has been saying all the top 3 were holding back until warranty period was over so nobody else could work on them....(warranty was the excuse) If I were looking to buy. I would buy an older machine and rebuild to new cond...Adaughter bought a new GMC, a few issues showed up and she found out not all dealers have the same diagnostics...Do some serious internet looking nation wide,you'll be amazed at what's out there...
 

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Thats what im affraid of. Spend 30-50k on something thats just not gonna be fixed by the home mechanic.

I bought a BX23s 4WD TLB about 2 years ago. It was the smallest Kubota I could get that had a backhoe included.
It is diesel, but does not have a regen on it because it is low (23?) horsepower and not (yet) required. The thing absolutely SIPS fuel unless I'm using the bush hog or the box blade. Most of the time it runs at the lower throttle range and five gallons of fuel will last seemingly forever!

I added a heated cab for winter use. Everything is quick-attach and it's very easy to change implements. It wasn't cheap, just north of $34K out the door, but for my 1.6 acres that needed a ton of work it has been a life saver. I've done a massive (700+ hrs) amount of landscape work with it that I would never have been able to accomplish without bringing in outside contractors or rentals, so I've saved many thousands of dollars there.

(Now, I might have some time this spring to start on my 125 restoration.) ;-)
 

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John deere is in the middle of a very important lawsuit right now. They are being sued because they won't release their diagnostic software. They say it's proprietary and what not. But without the soft ware, you can't diagnose a simple check engine light. You have to take it in, or have them come out to you, at your expense. It doesn't sound like a big deal, but think if the auto industry did that, where you couldn't even scan a code, or look at the data stream. Where would we home technicians be? How many cubs could we afford if we had to take our trust trusty cub haulers to the dealer for everything?
Yes, alot of eyes are on this as auto makers want to follow suit. The term "proprietary" is being used as defense. They're also using the "we do not want people disabling safety and emissions features". It's all about the $$$.
If you really want to get fired up, Toyota is leading the way for auto makers wanting to explore subscription service for options on your vehicle. Monthly fees for things like remote start. Options you've already paid for when you purchased the car, but are rendered inoperable unless you subscribe to a monthly service...🤬
 
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