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Narrow or wide frame plow?
- Thread starter Matthew Taylor
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Sure looks like a NF sub frame to me!
Although the lift bracket on the blade appears to stick out quite far like it would be for a WF
Although the lift bracket on the blade appears to stick out quite far like it would be for a WF
hydroharry
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The blade itself has a lift bracket that is for a wide frame. I'm pretty certain the sub-frame is for a "Cadet" tractor (the lawn tractor). It's not made to attach to a narrow or wide frame Cub Cadet.
tromaniecki
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I agree with dschwandt, looks like one to me too.
But could you post a picture showing the rest of the undercarriage please?
Something just does not look quite right like Harry pointed out.
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tromaniecki
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Thanks Matthew! that clears a lot up.
I now change my mind and agree totally with Harry.
For whatever it worth.....
Much better!!
The plow, yes, will fit either WF or NF
The sub frame as has been mentioned does not fit either.
What are you planning to put it on??
The plow, yes, will fit either WF or NF
The sub frame as has been mentioned does not fit either.
What are you planning to put it on??
Matthew Taylor
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I'm looking to put it on a model 70 Cub cadet.
Hang on, I'll get a picture for Ya.
If you are handy, you could modify that frame to fit.
If you are handy, you could modify that frame to fit.
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Matthew Taylor
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Wow that's informative!
Based on your diagram, I found a sub frame online available.
I'm a possum eatin' a sweet potato right now!!!
Based on your diagram, I found a sub frame online available.
I'm a possum eatin' a sweet potato right now!!!
tromaniecki
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David, I'd say you did a stellar job of redeeming yourself! Nice pic's!
this was the best I could come up with... and it beat to heck...
this was the best I could come up with... and it beat to heck...
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hydroharry
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HOLD on there guys -
Matthew - if you're mounting it to a Model 70 then you need the "frame extenders" (might not be correct name) shown as Item #19 in the parts diagram that David S posted. It's in the box marked "1963-1967". These little extenders are NOT shown in the actual pictures of the sub-frame he posted in the message below the diagram message.
I actually ordered these one time back in 1980something to use on a Model 122, and boy was I surprised. At that time I had no idea what these things looked like and the dealer didn't show me the parts diagram. When they came in they were painted IH Red and I figured they must have been some really old old old NOS. They are just 2 pieces of flat stock steel with 3 holes drilled in them. Maybe you can figure it out and make some duplicates if someone on here has a pair of those little buggers.
David S - you did a great job posted the diagram and the pics, but I sure gotta disagree with one of your comments. You said "if you are handy you could modify that frame to fit". I disagree. It's my opinion you'd have to be a metal genius to modify that Cadet sub-frame into a sub-frame for a Model 70. On the other hand, I know you're a metal genius based on a reproduction part you made and sent to me.
(Yes I did say "metal" genius, not mental
)
Matthew - if you're mounting it to a Model 70 then you need the "frame extenders" (might not be correct name) shown as Item #19 in the parts diagram that David S posted. It's in the box marked "1963-1967". These little extenders are NOT shown in the actual pictures of the sub-frame he posted in the message below the diagram message.
I actually ordered these one time back in 1980something to use on a Model 122, and boy was I surprised. At that time I had no idea what these things looked like and the dealer didn't show me the parts diagram. When they came in they were painted IH Red and I figured they must have been some really old old old NOS. They are just 2 pieces of flat stock steel with 3 holes drilled in them. Maybe you can figure it out and make some duplicates if someone on here has a pair of those little buggers.
David S - you did a great job posted the diagram and the pics, but I sure gotta disagree with one of your comments. You said "if you are handy you could modify that frame to fit". I disagree. It's my opinion you'd have to be a metal genius to modify that Cadet sub-frame into a sub-frame for a Model 70. On the other hand, I know you're a metal genius based on a reproduction part you made and sent to me.
(Yes I did say "metal" genius, not mental
)
If the laterals were the same size stock, that would be a piece of cake Harry, as long as one had the specs to copy.
The slots are no problem now that I have a mill.
Looks like the flat plate is near the same size.
And by the looks of it I'd have mat'l left over!!
Good to see you back on board!!
The slots are no problem now that I have a mill.
Looks like the flat plate is near the same size.
And by the looks of it I'd have mat'l left over!!
Good to see you back on board!!
Matthew Taylor
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It appears those extenders are still attached to the subframe I bought online.
Way to watch my six hydroharry!
Dshwandt and co. thanks for the support!!
Way to watch my six hydroharry!
Dshwandt and co. thanks for the support!!
tromaniecki
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Matthew, please post a picture of that subframe you bought online.
Thanks.
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tromaniecki
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Well , lookie at that!
Nice catch Harry.
Thanks Matthew for posting pic so quickly.
Harry or David, so what is item #21 listed in that same diagram used for on the 70 or 100? Also whats #23 for or called, I'm trying to install this frame on a 127. looks like I'm missing a piece.
I don't have the benefit of the description legend for part numbers for that diagram
Nice catch Harry.
Thanks Matthew for posting pic so quickly.
Harry or David, so what is item #21 listed in that same diagram used for on the 70 or 100? Also whats #23 for or called, I'm trying to install this frame on a 127. looks like I'm missing a piece.
I don't have the benefit of the description legend for part numbers for that diagram
They are both lift brackets.
21 is for blades up to 67 and 23 is 68 & after.
It bolts to the lift arm and slips onto/over the rock shaft
21 is for blades up to 67 and 23 is 68 & after.
It bolts to the lift arm and slips onto/over the rock shaft
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