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mschutz

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I am thinking about looking at a 1912. The book says it was the replacement for the 982. Just wondering if anyone has any experience with one? Shush don't tell anyone. Would it make a good plow tractor? I need something big to compete with those big green tractors.
 

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Melody--I don't have any hands on with the 1912 but I love my 1772 CubKub. My cousin has several Case Garden tractors with the Onan engines and they are quite impressive. I really like the Super frame and platform and the Onan is a good engine. Just be prepared for more expense when the Onan needs work. Hopefully someone on here has owned one or has more experience than me with one. Keep us posted.
 

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Melody,
I cant give you a hands on with plowing. But as far as a mower tractor it is a BEAST. If you liked running a 982 but didnt like the hard steering you will like the 1912. Alot of people take that off to put on the 982. Did run one much but I remember it was a real nice set up. Hope this helps Jim
 

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Matt,
Sorry bout that I thought for sure it had power steering on the one I ran. But like I said its been years ago. Now im wondering what model it was. Again sorry for the wrong advise. Jim
 

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What model did the Super's start with power steering.
 

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Melody Schutz

I know an 1862 does have power steering !
 

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Melody--from the reference material I have and the tractors that I've owned already, the pre Cyclops tractors that have p/s factory are as follows: 1572, 1772, 1872, 2072. They were all supers and equipped with either diesels or Magnum kohlers(and evidently a handful of 2072's came with the same Onan that is in the 1912). IMHO, if you want to get this 1912 really bad because of the price and or condition then I would plan to upgrade it with p/s. Otherwise hunt for one of the above tractors with it already in place.

Donald--the 1862 was the first CC GT sized machine to have p/s as I understand it.
 

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Thanks Joshua, I emailed the guy and he says it has 1500hrs on it. It's up by my work and I'm on vacation this week. I told him if he still has it when I go back to work I will stop by to look at it. Really don't have room for it, but we'll see.
 

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I have a the original sales literature for this series of tractors and can say for 100% cetrain that the 1912 has no power steering...as mentioned before, the 1872 was the first to come std with PS.

My literature collection is actually very complete for these machines..as follows....

The 1912 falls into the family as follows: (Concurrent with last part of red 82 series production, ~1984)

1210 (same as 1282, 12hp K-301 manual lift)
1604 (same a 582 special 4 speed peerless, 16hp B&S)
1606 Same as 582,3 speed with creeper, 16hop B&S)
1710 (same as 682, 17hp Kohler, manual lift)
1711 (same as 782)
1712 (same as 782 with dual hyd)
1512 (same as 782D, dual hyd)
1912 (same as 982, Onan, dual hyd, brakes (NO PS))
1914 (1912 with 3pt and rear PTO)

in the next series the numbering went as follows (First "82 series that is all MTD fully under MTD dealerships and marketing, IH is out of the picture completely)

1204 (12hp K-301 manual lift, 4speed peerless)
1210 (12hp K-301 hydro, manual lift)
1211 (1210 with hyd lift)
1806 (18hp Magnum twin, manual lift 3 speed w/creeper)
1810 (18hp Magnum twin, manual lift hydro)
1811 (1810 with hyd. lift)
1812 (1811 with dual hyd.)
1572 (SGT diesel, dual brakes, dual hyd. hydro, PS)
1872 (SGT 18 Mag Twin,dual brakes, dual hyd. hydro, PS)
2072 (SGT 20 Mag Twin,dual brakes, dual hyd. hydro, PS)

Note: Mid production 1572 went to 1772 with bigger diesel engine.

Next: (Cyclops I)

1335 12.5 kohler, 3 speed gear, manual lift
1340 12.5 Kohler, hydro, manual lift
1535 15 hp Hohler twin, 6 speed gear, manual lift
1541 15 hp Kohler twin, hydro, manual lift
1860 18hp Kohler twin, hydro , manual lift
1862 18hp Kohler twin, hydro, hyd lift, PS
1782 17hp Kubota diesel, SGT, hydro, PS, hyd lift, dual remotes optional, dual brakes std.
1882 18hp gas version of 1782
2082 20hp gas version of 1882
2182 21hp Kubota GAS version of 1782.

finally....(Cyclops II)

1440 14hp B&S OHV Vanguard, hydrogear hydro, manual lift
1641 16hp B&S OHV Vanguard, hydrogear hydro, hyd. lift
1863 18hp OHV Kohler Command, hydrogear hydro, hyd. lift
1864 18hp OHV Kohler Command, Sunstrand hydro, hyd. lift, PS
1782 17hp SGT diesel, PS
2086 20hp OHV Kawasaki liquid cooled gas SGT, PS
2284 22hp OHV Kohler Command SGT, PS
 
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Steve: You've shared good and valuable information, there is only one thing I would add, in the case of the Model 1210 at S/N 746,300 the ignition system was converted from an external coil to an internal magneto which occasioned a significant change to the chassis wiring. The engine is properly designated an M12, not a K-301. I realize that this distinction was beyond the scope of your comment, but I thought I would chime in since what you posted will likely be used as reference for myself and others.

I'm not sure if the change I mention corresponds to the first or second production series you list. The earlier iterations of the 12 HP tractor, the 680 and 1282, had the external ignition coil, K-301 engine.

Again, I'm grateful for your posting, and I hope I don't offend you, it's just that I learned about the change in the process of trying to help someone with a 1210 that I thought had a K-301 installed and it turned out his was already wired for an M12. I'm just trying to help someone else from making the same mistake. You have already distinguished the KT-17 and M18, and of course the B&S 16 & 18 HP motors both used an internal magneto, so the Model 1210 would be the only one affected.
 

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Excellent point, one I completely overlooked when typing that up last night....

No problem on my end, thanks for setting that straight!!!
 

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Just curious. Where does my 1050 fit on that list? I don't have the original hood to give me the obvious model #. But running the serial/model # in the parts look up calls it out as a 1050.

And Melody, if you haven't already, give that 1912 a test drive. But IMO, with the expensive Onan and no power steering, it better be priced under $1000 for me to want to work on it.
 

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The 1050 showed up as an economy model during the 1811/1872 era.
 

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Steve,
Thanks!

Melody,

Where you thinking that was high or low? I'm guessing your think high. In my part of the woods (just outside St.Louis, MO and just shy of a day trip to Cub Heaven,IA) a complete, running, Super Cub with P/S and a IH/CCC deck goes for $2500 all day long. Sure some are higher and lower, but that's the general going rate for someone who knows what they are selling...

I was only suggesting that since I don't like the uber expensive Onan engine and I'm in love with P/S, would only pay so much for a given Super.

Pay what you feel is a good price for you. I'm looking forward to reading about the outcome!

For the record, (with the upmost modesty and full disclosure) both my IH 782 and CCC 2072 were free, running with decks. I paid $75 for my 128 almost 15yrs ago. I paid $100 for my 70 because it came in a $200 pair and my dad really wanted the other tractor. I paid $250 for my 1050 because it is exactly what I wanted for a puller. I do have the 2063 I'm parting but I'm not going to disclose to purchase price due to pending sales.

Hope you all had a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
 

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Did a little research in the 50yrs of CC book. The decal on the hood would make it a 1985, but they didn't offer PS until 1986.It was an option.
 
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