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[Gary mixon]

I have a cub cadet 42in enduro series. 60hrs on the meter and the hydrostatic went out no help from Cub Cadet 3mnths out of warranty. Now I will never buy another cub cadet and would warn others about doing the same. I have a LT1000 craftsman 10ths old and no problem except keeping air in tires. Very disappointed with cub cadet. I’m Gary Mixon live in Kennett, Missouri

 

[1811Cub]

Gary-sorry to hear about your misfortune. Most people on this site own vintage Cubs, so you are preaching to the choir when it comes to the newer stuff.

Just curious, was this bought at a box store or Cub dealer?

 

[mgwin]

Sorry to hear that Gary. Things are not made to last now days. China likes to make junk, sell it "cheap," so you will have to buy more quickly.
Look around and find an IH built cub cadet, then you will have something!

 

[cub1961]

don’t let the new cub cadets influence how you think of pre-90-ish cubs. no comparison. later generations cubs are throwaways like most mtd products

 

[1811Cub]

1998 and newer was where the real decline began and more and more MTD involvement and cheapening of the products occurred.

 

[mgwin]

I guess you could say new cub cadets are Stanley/Black & Decker brand now!

 

[jstewart]

I think everybody at the time knew where CC would end up. It was only surprising that they took longer to get there.

The 80's models were actually quite impressive. MTD wasn't a top line outfit, but they tried for a while.

 

[1811Cub]

Let's be frank here- MTD was adjusting their product lineup to better meet the financial requirements of their customer base. They cheapened their products to lower the price point to make it more attractive to more of the masses. My 1811 had a list price of over $5000 in 1986, which equates to $13517 in todays dollars. Few would purchase a 2WD garden tractor today, regardless of quality or construction for that money. Obviously, these were a fine piece, and a great percentage of them produced are still in existence, and like mine are actually still used weekly.

 

[jstewart]

Have you ever read A Corporate Tragedy ?
The 80's changed this country and not in a good way. We lost a lot of things. The consumer has never been what they used to be.......................





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[mgwin]

It changed when Bill Clinton signed the free trade agreement.
No way we can compete with other countries, when they are paying around 50 cents an hour for labor.

 

[charles germer]

the newer ones are MTD's branded as cub cadet with a little eye bling added , sorry man but your craftsman very possibly is also a MTD made rebranded machine,that's if it's not a rebranded Husqvarna .

i had a 2008 lt1050 sold it with 500 hours on it , the new owner had\s added another 100 so it's really how a machine is used and cared for

sbd is allready cutting corners and cheaping out machines pushing battery power across the board

 

[jstewart]

It changed when Bill Clinton signed the free trade agreement.
No way we can compete with other countries, when they are paying around 50 cents an hour for labor.

Just like Ross Perot said, a giant sucking sound.
It shows the gullibility of the American people to swallow Willie's sales pitch.............nobody bothered to think about how they were going to compete with near slave labor.
Willie also claimed "It is the right of every American to own a home" and they have been making it tougher ever since.

 

[PACub100]

the newer ones are MTD's branded as cub cadet with a little eye bling added , sorry man but your craftsman very possibly is also a MTD made rebranded machine,that's if it's not a rebranded Husqvarna .

i had a 2008 lt1050 sold it with 500 hours on it , the new owner had\s added another 100 so it's really how a machine is used and cared for

sbd is allready cutting corners and cheaping out machines pushing battery power across the board

Craftsman, Poulan and Husqvarna were the same, made by AYG.
Basically there are 2 major players, AYG and MTD (which is now SBD). John Deere makes their own but their box store lines are no better IMO.

And something I've often wondered...had IH survived, what would they be like today?... it's sad to say but perhaps it was for the best that they were forced to bow out while their reputation was held in high regards...

 

[rkuik]

Have you ever read A Corporate Tragedy ?
The 80's changed this country and not in a good way. We lost a lot of things. The consumer has never been what they used to be.......................





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yes i have and i own the copy.

 

[mgwin]

Yeah, like the idea that every household will have an electric vehicle in just a few years. They are already reporting power losses across the country due to the heat. The power companies are saying they are maxed out on power, and want every one to limit their power consumption.
So.........How the crap are they gonna supply more power to charge millions of vehicles???? Uncle Joe never thought of that!!! He reminds me of:

"If I only had a brain."

 

[dschwandt]

yes i have and i own the copy.

Sure wish it was still in print, I would like to read it as well.
Super ex$penSive to buy a copy.
Maybe the local library can get it on inter-library loan.
I'll have to check that out.
Who is the author?

 

[1811Cub]

 

[PACub100]

 

[kzintner]

Amazon has a used copy, reportedly 1 left $345.99

 

[jstewart]

The book gives the impression that Archie McCardell didn't make much of an effort to to fix the problems of IH, he had an impressive track record coming into the job. Maybe the book have an over simplification
The strange thing, Archie refused to talk about his time there in later years.

The amazing thing, despite the problems of the 60's and 70's, they turned out some fabulous stuff, somebody was doing something right.