• This community needs YOUR help today. With the ever increasing fees of everything (server, software, domain, e-mail) , we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community to help spread our love and knowledge of IH Cub Cadets. You get a lot of great new account perks including access to private forums. If you sign up for annual, I will ship a few IH Cub Cadet Forum decals too in addition to all the account perks you get. You can see what it looks like below.

    Sign up here: https://www.ihcubcadet.com/account/upgrades

Archive through February 15, 2005

IH Cub Cadet Tractor Forum

Help Support IH Cub Cadet Tractor Forum:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.
This forum is a great resource, but I'm reluctant to ask any questions because of the RTFM issue. I've browsed the archives back quite a ways and getting whacked over the head with the manual seems to happen a lot to the less experienced guys. Perhaps it would helpful to have an area for experts (only) and another area for CC novices.
 
Dave A - there's no such issue. It's just common sense. If you own something you ought to have a manual for it (it saves repeating the same answers every day from the guys that are to tight A$$ to buy a manual or are to damn lazy to read one) because you can't always rely on someone else to give you the answers as you did in school.
(I use "you" generically)

Terry B - you need to re-read the page again and show me where it says "RTFM".

Richard C - git off yer sorry butt and finish dat dar lift ... lay around the house just because you have a little scratch on your belly ... you act like you got cut open and half yer inards took out ! Yer just lazy lazy lazy ... man I never seen the beat !!
 
Ah hell, I just as well get in on this deal! And since I have ATFM's and then some!

You want to know how to shut these guys up on the manual thing!

BTFM, RTFM Or at least do a simple archive or Google search and THEN ask if ya have a problem cause we all know that the manuals are good for a GUIDE and DO NOT cover everything we need to know about Cubs. I can give you a list a mile long on Cubs that the manuals do not cover enough to help a novice do the job right and there's many guys that do things that the manuals say can't be done that way, but it works great!

I think the main thing here is! Try and help yourself just a little before you ask what to many may seem to be a very simple question/answer. I personally alway try to remember that I was Cub stupid once too.
I'm done now, grin.

25734.gif
 
Richard C. -

While you're recouperating, are you laying on a piece of cardboard?
lol.gif


Manuals -

Only a few "excuses" for not owning them (strictly tongue-in-cheek): illiteracy (not likely cuz ya managed to read this here forum), cheapness (perhaps ya might consider giving up that third case of beer or second carton of cigs a week til ya can afford one - besides, all hobbies have a cost, so get used to it), you're just one of those who reads all the books at Barnes & Noble but never buys any of them, or laziness.

I was a n00b once, too. First thing I did was buy the wide frame service manual. Only after following the manual did I find the need for a phone call to Hydro Harry to clear up something. So Charlie's right (don't let it go to yer head!) - read first, ask if it doesn't make sense.

I never worked on my car in high school without the apropriate Helm and Rochester books.

I could quickly mess up a $2M computer if I didn't RTFM first here at work.

BTW, RTFM, as a term, goes WAY back, it wasn't invented here or by me, but it sure fits the bill.

A related aside - there was an article this week about the Army. They have a maintenance publication that looks like a comic book. They found that soldiers wouldn't read it otherwise. Hmmm.
 
From a few days back......hyd. lift relief valve schematic.

25736.jpg
 
On the acronym thing - you can raise or lower the sting level of some of them by adding the "41" modifier ("For Once"). So RTFM becomes RTFM41, etc. You easily can dream up many other modifiers.

So when feeling the sting of a nastynym, LOL41 or even 41LOL.

JimE
 
Jim E. -

Nice - never seen that one before. I will definitely add that to my arsenal
lol.gif
 
Charlie,
I'll agree with you there, the Sauer manual was the hot ticket for that one
dizzy.gif
 
Bryan,

I dreamt that up many years ago when I was part of the Mil-Industrial complex. All drawings had many refs to mil-spec this and mil-spec that so I sent a review drawing to a buddy in production that referenced MIL-TP41. After a few days he called and said he couldn't find it so I told him is was "Make It Like The Print For Once". He took it the wrong way and got really pissed off. Took a few beers to make things right again.
beerchug.gif
 
Jim-
I thought it was Mil specs that drove everyone to drinking in the first place!!!!
 
You don't know how funny that MIL-TP41 reference struck me this AM........as I sit here in front of my ACAD machine finishing a print for a new natural gas regulator station.

I might have to add "All natural gas equipment is to be built and installed to Spec# MIL-TP41" to the bottom of this drawing....just to see what happens!!!!
 
Steve B.
Thats the drawing I was looking for the other day before I miss-spoke. I remembered it but can't find it in any of my service manuals or the hydro manuals. Where does it come from?

Poor Charlie has been looking for it for me and the only way I could describe it was it was a block diagram with some arrows in it.

Some real good comments on the RTFM & BTFM this morning, I hope everyone takes them to heart. I doubt anybody would buy several cars and then get on a car Forum and ask for detaliled instructions on how to remove the clutch, without first getting a shop manual and possibly reading it.

That said, I would be the first to say that the service manuals don't cover everything and sometimes don't explain very good, that is where the Forum is valuable.

Dave A.
Don't you or anybody else stop asking good questions when you get in a bind. There are many here who are more than happy to help and looking for a good chalenge.

Nuff said.

Ken W.
How can I finish that hitch when you're never satisfied with it. Always wanting it better. Nag, Nag, Nag, and here I am laying on my death bed. Yesterday I was looking at it and decided to modify it as some IDOT may stick his fingers between the fenders and the lift and remove a finger, got to factor in Safety too.

Bryan
It's been raining here for so long my carboard went limp.
 
There's a slideshow for the Portland, Indiana antique engine show on my web site. There's some Cub Cadets images and about 450 pictures of other neat old stuff (antique motors, garden tractors and full size tractors). Go to www.gofastgarage.com and look for the Portland link along the top right.

My apologies if the slideshow is a little slow when using dial up. The database software I'm using to power it is not behaving (think I should RTFM?). I still have some work to do on the navigation system too.

Probably some of you already have, but if not you should try to attend that show. In addition to a huge display area, there's about 10 acres of goodies for sale during the last two days (Fri/Sat). Some of it looks an awful lot like Cub Cadet parts..
 
To whom it may concern
happy.gif
,
My post said:

I don't think its the fact that you tell people to RTFM. Its that way its been said.

I work for a high tech Automation Distributor. I am a Senior Automation Specialist for industrial controls. The Senior title means I have been doing this for ten years. I have had my share of questions that have been in the manual. I just had one yesterday where a customer was upset no one answered his question.
Now I could get myself all worked up and yell at him and hell him the read the manual and go away until you're done. However, the only two things I accomplished is to get myself frustrated and to get the customer frustrated if not mad.
My approach to these questions would be to say:

Good question, as a matter of fact it is so good that they published a page in the manual on that very same topic. Go to this vendor and buy the Service manual on the 147 cub. You should be able to pick that up for about $20. Once you get it go to page 18 and under the section title gears (or whatever) you will find your answer.

Now you really didn't answer the direct question but you did empower this person to help himself. He feels good because he can now find his answer. You feel good because you enlightened someone and showed them they are not alone with their question and here is a resource to get the answer.

Thats what we call a Win Win!
thumbsup_old.gif
 
Richard C. -

I am NOT going there!!
roflol.gif
 
Okie Dokie!
We all know how the forum operates, and we all know how to ask questions and we all know what the end result will be when the same question is asked for the upteenth time just because the new guy dint read the FAQ's, do a little research on his own. I can see both sides of the coin here, BTDT, but damn guys, give it a rest, snicker
SO, lets find something else to bitch about, like the fact that hydros are 1000 times better than freakin gear drives!
Or why WF's bet the hell outta NF's, grin
 
Charlie -

Or maybe folks DON'T know how it operates.

As many of us DO know, this isn't the touchy-feely "I love you, you love me" feel-good PAX IH Cub Cadet forum
lol.gif


Just like 7-UP, never had it, never will
wink.gif
 
Back
Top