Picled up a 1050. Today.

[cubs4lifeofme]

SO THE Drivetrain should be fine @ 3000 hours then ?

 

[snicklas]

More than likely..... The 3 speeds are stout. We have a hydro that is getting close to those hours and it still works fine, and it's not had a pampered life. It was our "everything" tractor for decades. Mowing every week, tilling, pushing snow, garden plowing........

 

[hydroharry]

Well - if you read the brochure with the picture of the guy wiping sweat off his neck, it says Peerless transmission.
I believe almost, if not all, Peerless transmissions are sealed and not serviceable - meaning if you have any problem you just junk it.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it

 

[mgonitzke]

Well - if you read the brochure with the picture of the guy wiping sweat off his neck, it says Peerless transmission.
I believe almost, if not all, Peerless transmissions are sealed and not serviceable - meaning if you have any problem you just junk it.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it

Dunno if that is a typo or if Peerless actually made the aluminum 3-speeds, but that is NOT the same transmission as the belt drive models, i.e. 482, 582S, 580, 1204, 1604, etc. This is basically an aluminum version of the IH 3-speed rearend.

 

[spndncash]

based on the parts lists from CC the 1050 diff/trans is the same as the 580, 582, 1604 and 1606 diff/trans. I have no idea if they are peerless, good, bad, non serviceable etc. there is a parts breakdown which to me makes them serviceable. they were installed in at least five models so used parts should be available. I have never had a tractor/mower that was not repairable - only things that were not worth the cost or effort to repair them. that is a personal decision - what is it worth to you and do you want to get a little dirty?
If you are happy with the 1050 (i would be it looks good and its not green) use it in good health and enjoy your time spent in the yard.
https://www.cubcadet.com/en_US/serv...3Mo-Lqu5KYIPzUavBgSx4bsaAgZhEALw_wcB#diagrams

 

[tlavalette]

Its a 2300 peerless. 4 speeds forward and 1 reverse. They are used in a ton of garden tractors. Very trouble free.

 

[spndncash]

I would like to add that if that really has 3000 hours it was extremely well cared for. I really doubt it has that many hours, the tire tread looks to be the original design and has good tread all around. I would suspect my wife used it and left the key on allowing the hour meter to continue running until the battery dies...then complains that the battery is always dead.

 

[cubs4lifeofme]

here it is.

 

[hydroharry]

Tom - the brochure with the guy states it's a 3-speed.

I have to admit it sure doesn't look like a Peerless, and it is direct drive, so maybe it isn't really as bad as I thought. On the other hand, it looks like you could just swap over an IH cast iron rearend and be able to sleep at nite.

 

[cubs4lifeofme]

 

[cubs4lifeofme]

 

[cubs4lifeofme]

Ist pick is my 1050. 2nd pic is from a 1872 I'm going to get. Look very similar 2 me ?

 

[mgonitzke]

based on the parts lists from CC the 1050 diff/trans is the same as the 580, 582, 1604 and 1606 diff/trans. I have no idea if they are peerless, good, bad, non serviceable etc. there is a parts breakdown which to me makes them serviceable. they were installed in at least five models so used parts should be available. I have never had a tractor/mower that was not repairable - only things that were not worth the cost or effort to repair them. that is a personal decision - what is it worth to you and do you want to get a little dirty?
If you are happy with the 1050 (i would be it looks good and its not green) use it in good health and enjoy your time spent in the yard.
https://www.cubcadet.com/en_US/serv...3Mo-Lqu5KYIPzUavBgSx4bsaAgZhEALw_wcB#diagrams

Its a 2300 peerless. 4 speeds forward and 1 reverse. They are used in a ton of garden tractors. Very trouble free.

I'm not sure how you guys are getting it wrong, but you are. The 1050 parts lookup (be careful, there are some later recycled variations of that model number) shows the 3-speed rear that matches the pictures the OP has posted.

I have heard the those rears are not as sturdy as the IH cast iron ones from which they are inspired, but personally I would not worry one bit with 10 hp in front of it.

 

[spndncash]

I'm not sure how you guys are getting it wrong, but you are. The 1050 parts lookup (be careful, there are some later recycled variations of that model number) shows the 3-speed rear that matches the pictures the OP has posted.

I have heard the those rears are not as sturdy as the IH cast iron ones from which they are inspired, but personally I would not worry one bit with 10 hp in front of it.

Here is the cub cadet parts image of 1050 diff/Tran

and here is the 582 sn720000 and up- not the s. depending on serial number there seems to be several variations. The models 580,582, 1604 and 1606 parts are lumped together. The 580, 1604 and1606 are not called out specifically for any trans/diff that I can see so I should not have lumped them together. But the late model 582 and the 1050 part numbers are the same and images are the same

I am saying cub used the same trans/axle in a 582 (sn720000 and up) and inconclusive on the 580,1604,1606 since they are not called out on either trans listed and I don’t own any of them
I still say it’s a fine looking tractor the 10 hp has plenty of power and I seriously doubt there are 3000 working hours on this lovely machine. I run a tiller with both extensions and a front end loader on a 10hp 106 and have never had a lack of power. long live your 1050 and aim for 6000 hours!

 

[mgonitzke]

1606 is mechanically the same thing as the later 582. Not sure why they lumped all of those together in the parts lookup, as that is very confusing if you don't know what you are looking for. The 582 special, 1604, and 580 are the same, and the trans for those can be found under "Transaxle - 582 Special" in the parts lookup.

Here is what the Peerless transaxle looks like (from a 1204; very similar to the 582S, 580, and 1604 except for the engine):

 

[kmcconaughey]

Here's more from the brochure:

 

[kmcconaughey]

It's not the same setup like the IH built 1100 that used the peerless 4 speed.

 

[spndncash]

I don't know much about that model but here's a little info:

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Just out of curiosity. what does your 1050 deck look like and is it 38 or 44? the sales brochure shows what looks to be a two bladed deck. the CC parts diagrams show only three bladed decks unless I am reading it wrong which clearly I have done in the past! haha.

Being in sales I know marketing does not always talk to sales or engineering. They do what they want under the guise of "it makes a better display or advertisement." Consider the guy sweaty from mowing AstroTurf and a black tarp wearing long-johns and a long shirt?!? Wouldn't you want the guy relaxed and at ease because his Cub made the yard work so much easier to complete.

 

[kmcconaughey]

If you look closer at the brochure pages I posted, it lists both a 38" and 44" deck as optional. The 38" deck has two blades, the 44" deck has three blades. The photo is of the 38" deck.

 

[hydroharry]

Boy am I glad I kept pushing the Peerless. Got lots of info here. If it truly is Peerless it does look pretty decent, and actually looks close to being the same as in the bigger GT tractors as noted by Cubs4Lifeofme.