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Archive through June 25, 2013 Bill Jamison (Bjamis
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Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Bill Jamison (Bjamison) on Monday, May 19, 2014 - 07:31 am:

Jeff B - thanks! I know that fellow, he makes all kinds of reproduction and custom decals for the Wheelhorse tractors.

Speaking of tractor shows - there is a great Wheelhorse get together every year. This year it is Friday & Saturday, June 20-21, 2014 and is at South Mountain Fairgrounds - Arendtsville, PA. (Near Gettysburg)

Here is a link to the sponsor: http://www.wheelhorsecc.com/index.php


Thanks!
Bill J
IH Cub Cadet 109, 126 & McCormick Era 1650
(No warranty expressed or implied)


Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy jeff l baker (Jbaker) on Sunday, May 18, 2014 - 08:01 pm:

Bill, I took this picture just for you, it was a vendor at AJs Jambore


IH wide frame hydros are the cats meow

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Scott Nicklas (Snicklas) on Thursday, May 15, 2014 - 05:47 pm:

Bill,

When we plowed ours, or anyone elses garden we always started in the middle and work to the edges. It does save alot of time, since your are not dead-heading on both ends. I also understand the stresses while plowing and the sound of engine being worked (a 14hp Kohler in a 149) but I love to hear the single cylinder engine a barking when being worked hard. Most of the plowing I had experienced was in a well worked garden. I wanted a garden at my house, and the soil in the back yard had not been worked since is had been a field about 20+ years before. The plot lies between a couple of smaller trees, which doesn't help, but I experienced 2 things in about 5 minutes, that I had not experienced in 30+ years of plowing. I was using my 1450 with chained up turf tires, and the same Brinley plow Dad and I have used for years. One pass I hooked a tree root, and pulled the front wheels off the ground about a foot and a half in an instant. Recovered from that, finished that furrow. One the next pass that direction, I hooked a root again, and flat killed that 14hp dead, from full throttle. I can just imagine how much force that Brinley adapter put on the bottom 3 bolts of the transmission. They are still on there tight, so it didn't break anything, but it was an abrupt stop. I look forward to plowing again, this time though, it will be with my 1650 with ag's. First tractor we have owned with ag tires. Plowing is a very enjoyable and relaxing experience. I agree with I believe it is Steve's signature about time spent plowing a field.......

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Bill Jamison (Bjamison) on Thursday, May 15, 2014 - 02:51 pm:

I found a pic of the garden I took the day before - before I did the plowing. I worked this garden last year and the year before - so thought though it had a fair amount of vegetation from over winter, it was much easier than plowing sod.

Having said that - it was brutal. I don't think any chore taxes a garden tractor (IMHO) than plowing a garden. The Onan would grunt some, the stress on that tranny boss had to be tremendous - especially with the 12 inch plow. With the foot control, I could speed-up and slow the tractor based on ground conditions and pull within the row. The idea is to keep from spinning, because once you do, you've lost a ton of useable traction. So if I started to spin, I would slow, the ag's (worn as they are) would regain their bite and pull me forward - sometimes from a dead stop and the plow fully buried! That alone puts great stress on the tranny, the engine to tranny belt, axles and hubs. When I would slow and then increase speed - the Onan would pull a bit into the governor and just go like crazy! The sound was amazing of the Onan working - the only thing missing (good thing) was a puff of black smoke like a diesel would belch! Plowed for 45 minutes - used about 1/4 of a tank.

I mentioned in a post maybe a year ago - that when plowing with the Wheelhorse, no more babying. Not going to abuse - but I've only got what four of these 520H tractors. If I rip the clevis hitch boss out of the tranny plowing, so be it! Full steam ahead!!!!!!! And I did. The Wheelhorse worked like a champ!

I've plowed with hydro's/hand control and gear drives - all good, however IMHO - the foot controlled hydro just beats them hands down as far as being able to change speed and keep your hands on the wheel (hanging-on) and able to look over the shoulder at the plow and just focus on plowing totally.

One thing I tried this year - which I've never done before, was to start in the middle of the garden. In my first post, you can see a pic of where I had made several passes from the center out. The idea was to save time (doing this after work in the evening and dark coming fast). So out to the end of the row, do a 180 and back down the other side of it. Worked great! This is what the manual for the Brinley recommends - but until this time, I had always worked from one end of the garden to the other. Don't know how everyone else plows - direction wise, but would be interested in knowing.

Next plow day - this fall when I turn things under.

Here is the pic of the garden I started with:


Thanks!
Bill J
IH Cub Cadet 109, 126 & McCormick Era 1650
(No warranty expressed or implied)


Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Melody Schutz (Mschutz) on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 07:54 am:

Bill, Nothing better then playing in the dirt.


These Yellow and Red and White Tractors Put A Smile On My Face!

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Jeremiah Chamberlin (Jchamberlin) on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 02:12 am:

Bill, that looks like a lot of fun. I can only image how the earth smells after you've cut into it.


Kohlers are kool

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Bill Jamison (Bjamison) on Tuesday, May 13, 2014 - 08:23 pm:

Ground engagement this evening with the mighty 520H (w/foot pedal kit).













Foot control is normally nice for keeping two hands on the steering wheel or freeing the hydro ground speed lever hand to operate the lift. However, foot control hydro is especially nice for plowing. As the ground changes, so does the traction. Foot control lets you vary the speed to minimize spinning and in doing so, maximizing the grip available to the ag's. No thinking required, simple as mashing the gas pedal in a car.

It was a beautiful day...


Thanks!
Bill J
IH Cub Cadet 109, 126 & McCormick Era 1650
(No warranty expressed or implied)


Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Bill Jamison (Bjamison) on Thursday, May 08, 2014 - 08:30 am:

Jeramiah - I haven't tried a front dethatcher on a Wheelhorse, but spent many hours with the rear discharge deck and sweeper. I have a bagger set-up for a 48 inch side discharge deck and while it works great, I prefer the sweeper. With the sweeper, I can mow regardless of the grass condition, i.e. wet or dry - and sometime I have to mow when the grass is wet, like after a thunderstorm after work. I have a tight schedule between work and family - so mowing grass when it's dry might be the ideal, but in my situation, it is simply not realistic. The sweeper doesn't care if the grass is soaked or totally dry, it picks it all up. To combat deck rust - I clean and paint the underside of my decks and have began collecting some spare decks and shells for the eventual rust-out. All decks, 48", 42", 36" side discharge and 42 and 36" inch decks for the C-series and 3/4/500 series tractors from around 1974 to the end of production around 2005 are totally interchangeable - as are most, if not all the implements too. It makes for easy/low cost outfitting your Wheelhorse with attachments.

The engine mounting position with the implement belt coming off the side of the tractor does make for easy and uncomplicated attaching power to mowers and snowthrowers. The clutch is on the engine too and is super easy to service and adjust. You can simply pull a couple of hitch pins and the clutch is off the tractor and in your hands.

Check your e-mail as I sent you an e-mail with a Wheelhorse brochure too.


Thanks!
Bill J
IH Cub Cadet 109, 126 & McCormick Era 1650
(No warranty expressed or implied)


Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Jeremiah Chamberlin (Jchamberlin) on Thursday, May 08, 2014 - 12:22 am:

Bill,

I'm intrigued by your setup with the rear discharge deck feeding the sweeper. The dethatcher in front is the icing on the cake. I would think that the sideways mounting of the engine would make driving front attachments easier.


Kohlers are kool

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Joel Goodine (Jgoodine) on Sunday, April 20, 2014 - 03:55 pm:

Bill them wheel horses look like decent tractors, I have never really looked a one closely. I just don't want to catch another tractor/color fever, yikes there might be a divorce, an she's a really good cook.

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Bill Jamison (Bjamison) on Friday, April 18, 2014 - 08:59 am:

Some chat about front mounted generators on the main board. Wheelhorse offered two different front mounted generators. I believe they were 3 or 3.5 kW and 5 or 5.5 kW.

Here is a pic:



Here is a better pic of via a youtube video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpnVfR21OqQ

Also - chatting with some guys on another color board, someone mentioned front mounted mowers. Wheelhorse offered a front mount carriage that the belly mower would attach to. Not to sure how well they worked, but I guess if you were mowing under trees or fences maybe there was some benefit. Here is a pic:



The first Wheelhorse I bought, I got a 42 inch rear discharge deck for it. For me, the idea was the ability to mow in ANY direction without respect for the clippings discharge. The ability to trim on both sides. Not slinging grass or gravel against the house or car.

Turned out, all of that stuff was possible, but even more. There is pretty much zero vacuum on a rear discharge deck, so when it's dry and you ride over a patch of dirt, no dust cloud. Motor across a gravel driveway, no gravel being picked-up and thrown about. Because the grass is constantly being left behind the mower, there is never a clog issue with mower like a side discharge and you can mow some very tall grass with it.

The down side is it can make a mess of the underside of the tractor and if your grass is very tall, it doesn't really disperse or recut much clippings. When you first mow - with tall grass, you can see the clippings. Lot of folks don't like that - but for whatever reason, if you wait until the next day, they are usually gone. I guess the wind scatters them or they just fall into the lawn. Wheelhorse made a 42 inch and a 36 inch 3 blade rear discharge deck. The 36 inch will fit into the back of a compact truck, like a Nissan Frontier, between the wheels.

The other thing you can do with a rear discharge deck is sweep your grass (or leaves) while you mow. If the grass is soaking wet, the RD deck will mow it and the sweeper will sweep it. If you're good with a sweeper, you can stripe your lawn with it too.

Here is a pic of a Wheelhorse with a front mounted dethacher, mid mounted 42 inch rear discharge deck and a sweeper working some grass - pretty cool IMHO.


Thanks!
Bill J
IH Cub Cadet 109, 126 & McCormick Era 1650
(No warranty expressed or implied)


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