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Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Joe Oligschlaeger (Joligschlaeger) on Friday, August 29, 2014 - 08:29 am:

A small (scale model) IH decal would set off that yellow finger nail.

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Charlie "Digger" Proctor (Cproctor) on Friday, August 29, 2014 - 08:21 am:

Jim P.
He means to use the paint you've mixed up within 3 days.
You won't like what you see in your gun if you don't, LOL

"Every Cub has beauty but not everyone sees it."

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Jim Patchett (Jpatchett) on Friday, August 29, 2014 - 08:09 am:

Jim H.

Do you mean use the paint with hardener in 3 days or just the hardener? I have use hardener several months/years old before, seemed to work ok.

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Charlie "Digger" Proctor (Cproctor) on Friday, August 29, 2014 - 08:07 am:

There are 3 things, maybe more that cause orange peel in and while painting.
1. It's caused by the surface tension of the paint as it dries, and is mostly a result of laying the paint down too thick.
2. Not mixing your paint to the right consistency.
3. Air temp and or humidity.

Fish eye remover does not cause orange peeling.

The only thin it does is. It helps us when painting for our lack of prep and or lack of paying attention to the small details during painting.
It's a very forgiving additive for us when we just want to get it DONE, LOL

Fish eye remover helps the paint flow easier as the surface tension normally would keep it from flowing over slippery contaminants on the work.

The best way to eliminate fish-eye finish is to wash all contaminants off the project before you start. LOL

Fish-eye eliminator, ironically enough, is silicone oil in a vehicle compatible with your finish. By pre-contaminating the finish, it lowers surface tension and lets the finish flow over contaminants on the wood without fleeing and cratering. The downside is that when you use the eliminator, you promptly contaminate your spray equipment with silicone oil. This, of course, sets you up to create fish-eyes the next time you spray, unless you've washed your cup and gun very thoroughly with lots of solvent. Because of this, some finishers opt to use fish-eye eliminator every time they spray, though there may be some cost in terms of adhesion between coats, poor resistance to sags and runs, and reduced final film hardness.

I use it and always will.

"Every Cub has beauty but not everyone sees it."

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Jeremiah's engine valve issue

Go to the Sandbox


Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Jim Harder (Jharder) on Friday, August 29, 2014 - 07:08 am:

I used Napa harder on all my CNH paint. Part number 253. Keep in mind once you open the hardener you only have 3 days to use it. You could get up to seven days if you put in the fridge. Fish eye killer is a good thing but keep in mind it will leave you paint with a orange peel look. Hope this helps Jim

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Charlie "Digger" Proctor (Cproctor) on Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 09:21 pm:

Marty G.
Just about an hardener works with CNH paint, just make sure and mix it per the can.
A couple drops of fish eye remover as well for good measure.

"Every Cub has beauty but not everyone sees it."

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Marty A. Gwin (Mgwin) on Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 08:16 pm:

I will be painting my dad's 122 soon. What kind of hardener would be best for the Case/IH Irongard paint?
Would Valspar 4625 enamel hardener work fine?

I treat everyone equal until they start doing something they shouldn't!

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy jeff l baker (Jbaker) on Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 05:26 pm:

dang it Harry you broke this thing

IH wide frame hydros are the cats meow,,Why own anything else

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Harry Bursell (Hydroharry) on Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 12:54 am:

John L - nothing special I'm aware of about counting the cooling fins on the block - just count them all bottom to top, or top to bottom. They are all pretty evenly spaced as you look at the separation between each one. There may be some places where there appears to be a double wide gap so look around the cylinder a little to see if the fin just doesn't go all the way around. There is no serial number break separating 13 fin from 12. Kohler was apparently shipping both versions at the same time. As far as I know Kohler didn't differentiate between the 2 blocks since nothing else was different, just the block casting. I suppose that wouldn't happen with todays manufacturing standards but back in '74 it probably didn't make a difference.

Hydro Harry
Old Cubs Never Die
(but might have a component failure)

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Steve Blunier "Mr. Plow" (Central IL) (Sblunier) on Wednesday, August 27, 2014 - 11:51 pm:

Sorry guys, I was thinking that was a color photo and she was wearing red pants and a white shirt.......must be a different publicity shot I was thinking of........ still a nice "seat cover"!!!!!

"There's nothing more peaceful than plowing a field, chances are you'll do your best thinking there"

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy John C. Lazar (Jclazar) on Wednesday, August 27, 2014 - 11:09 pm:

Hydroharry- True, the person I got the Kohler K341A from is a puller. He only ran twin cylinder engines. Well, mine don't appear to have been used lately.....a good sigh if you ask me. I'm still amazed that I can't turn it past compression stroke with one hand. Ok, the fin thing. Please give details as to how to count or check whether or not I have a 13 cooling fin. Are there cooling fins that may not be counted as so? I really don't know, please forgive me!

The engine will be well taken care of, though it might never find itself in a model 169, but a model 86! I can hardly wait to get going on the project, enjoying the 1450 project, and looking for ways to light my model 72 for winter snow plowing with a IH 42" blade. I do have a really neat tail light......

There should be a serial number noted as to when the 12 fin began production? It's definitely Kohler for IH Cub Cadet, and a model 169 has to come to mind as to where my engine came out of.

IH Cub Cadet tractors aren't built to a price, but to a standard.....we work constantly to improve them without changing their basic proven design.

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy David Kirk (Dkirk) on Wednesday, August 27, 2014 - 10:01 pm:


Thanks for mentioning that exhaust valve - that sent me on a hunt to find those pictures, which I finally did.

This has to be the most interesting engine failure I've ever seen...not really a failure though, as the engine was still able to run when my friend discovered this exhaust valve during an overhaul. Seems that the owner would experience a loss of compression/power, and upon finding that the exhaust lash had reduced to zero clearance, he would reset it to .018. This process went on several times and he finally ran out of adjustment on the lifter. The end result was this "taffy pulled" exhaust valve stem. My friend Tim had this valve sitting in his shop for several years until he accidentally knocked it off his table and it became two-pieces when it hit the floor. Fortunately, I captured the intact specimen via photos right after he removed the valve from the engine.

Muglety Wump-Muglety Wump...Glackus-Glackus!

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