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Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Ben Meddles (Bmeddles) on Friday, June 26, 2009 - 09:05 pm:

I'm from central Ohio. Anyone know someone to cut bar tires?

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Darren Sterley (Dsterley) on Friday, June 26, 2009 - 02:57 pm:

Ben i agree with you 100% that the most important thig is to have fun we dont pull for money at the end of the day the top three get a pin and braggin rights of cource
i was just courous what others thought im going to pull no matter what i hook to but i feel a little bad for the guy that spent all winter building the new sled if we dont continu to use it

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Ben P. Corn (Bcorn) on Friday, June 26, 2009 - 02:30 pm:

Darren: I love both types of pulls but I enjoy running pulls just a little more. Reason they go faster and I think you have more options on how to build a tractor. From the stock classes on up but also it takes a little more money then dead pulling.

Problay most of you members are set up for dead weight it is in a sense kinda hard to make a tractor do both. That is why I have 2 one is better at dead weight and another is more suited for running.

It will be an arguement that has gone on for a long time so just talk open and be prepared to make the adjustments for whatever pulling you guys decide. Biggest thing Have Fun!!

Pops

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Darren Sterley (Dsterley) on Friday, June 26, 2009 - 12:48 pm:

hi all
i need some help my local club that im a member of wants to go back to pulling dead weight.
we pulled the transfer sled one time and a few people didnt like it now theres talk that they are going back to dead weight is there any advice i can take to my club why the trasfer sled would be better.
what im looking for is some good point to bring up if there is any im farley new to pulling so im looking for some advicethanks again

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Ben P. Corn (Bcorn) on Friday, June 26, 2009 - 12:26 pm:

Just a little note of pulling fun this last week. Last Sat. my daughter and I competed in a dirt running pull. With Bare Bones taking 2nd w/daughter in light modified class. I took 2nd in middle modified.

My little 1000 and i took 2nd in heavy super stock w/ 3 full pulls and for the heck of it I put the 1000 in heavy modified class and proudly it and I took 4th in that class.

Thursday night we got a chance to see what Bare Bones could do at a dead weight pull. Ol Pops was so excited to see what I had built this winter. Heavens behold the little tractor and my daughter weighing in at 710lbs. took 1st. place in the light weight class with a percentage of 343%. I knew all along as I built this thing that I had a great chance having a champion on hand. But, seeing my daughter (23 yrs. old) winning was more than priceless!!!!!!!!!!

Pops

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy D Beirnes (Dbeirnes) on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 10:08 pm:

Great pics guys, keep them coming!!!!!!!!

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Kyle Redlinger (Kredlinger) on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 10:12 pm:

Couple of pics from recent pull.
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Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Dennis Frisk (Dfrisk) on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 08:48 am:

RICK - The 2-3 yrs I drove that White w/903 I mostly beat back & forth between Davenport IA & Chicago, about 3 hrs one way all the time but I did run longer runs, Detroit, Kansas City, St. Louis. Truck was a Day Cab with no sleeper bunk. Pretty basic truck, ordered out by Standard Forwarding, JD's captive contract carrier at the time. Company I drove for had 5 of them if I remember right. And THEY all smoked bad too. Especially in cold weather if You let them idle for any length of time, a gray nasty smelling smoke.
I averaged about 4 to 4-1/2 MPG in the summer and in winter with blended fuel I dropped to about 4. Not good by today's standards but I was loaded to around 75,000# gross most of the time. But I remember the day I first paid $0.60/gal. for fuel. Wish I could get fuel for that price now!
Company I drove for didn't have much of a maintenance program, they just patched things up when they broke to get You back on the road. Things like oil changes and grease jobs just didn't happen.
Truck was a '79 RoadBoss II, only had a 144" wheelbase and Reyco 4-leaf rear suspension so it rode pretty rough but the only other things I didn't care for about the truck was the lack of power steering, could have used a few more gears, only had a 6-speed Spicer trans, and it needed a 10-speed Road-Ranger with some overdrives, had 4.44 rear gears and was governed to 67 MPH @ 2500 rpm. And another 30-40 gal. of fuel capacity would have been nice, they only had one 125-130 gal. tank and in winter after My multi-stop runs I'd have to buy fuel to get home.
The cmpany had a mixed assortment of other trucks, couple S-series IH tractors, lots of Tran-Star IH tilt-cabs, an Astro-95 GMC, CL-9000 & L-9000 Fords, couple White RoadCommander's. Lots of 6V-92 turbo'd Detroits, and a couple 290 Cummins and lots of 350 Cummins. The one TranStar had an 8V-92 turbo'd Detroit, rated about 435 HP w/9-speed R-Ranger. Would run 75 loaded into a headwind if You kept Your foot in it hard enough, and got a whopping 3-1/2 MPG while doing it. But it carried 300 gal. of fuel.

From what I've gathered from other websites the 903 was used in some other military vehicles, like the Bradley armored troop carrier. Rated at about 600 HP which was quite a jump from the 320 HP @ 2600 rpm My truck was rated at. Guess they made a decent boat motor also. They didn't make quite as much torque as the 855 cid in-line 6's but they pulled pretty good from 1700 to the governed 2500 rpm limit, I just needed a couple more lower gears to keep it running in that range.
I'd driven a ready-mix truck back in the summer of '75, a '74 Diamond Reo w/555 Cummins & 5-spd Allison automatic. That 208 HP engine was no match for a truck that was loaded to over 50,000# all the time, especially with the Allison A/T. That was a tough job for a truck, idle around for an hour waiting to load, run the snot out of it for a half hour getting to the pour, idle for another hour unloading, then run hard again back to get another load. Everytime I drive My '96 F-250 Powerstroke I think about how it would run grossing 52,000#, My PSD actually has more HP than that 555 did!

3406 is a good motor. I read all the posts on the diesel pickup sites about "Real diesel engines are in-line 6's" and laugh. Most of those posts are made by people who've never driven anything bigger than a diesel pickup. Between My Dad & I We have logged over a Million miles on V-8 Cummins engines in class 7&8 trucks and there was only one night when My 903 swallowed some water and I bent two connecting rods and I couldn't drive it home. And Dad's '74 RoadBoss w/903 threw the fan thru the radiator one night but that wasn't the engine's fault. I'd take a V-8 903 Cummins over ANY comparable Detroit and a 555 over a 3208 CAT any day. They aren't as good as the engines avail. in trucks today but they were better than most available 30-40 yrs ago. Buddy of Mine drove an S-2200 IH W/ 6V-92 TTA & 9-speed, He'd run right with Me all the time, engine was rated 300-310 HP, and He got close to 5 MPG, but first thing every day He'd add a gallon of oil THEN pull the dipstick and see if it needed more! I'd add a quart or two of oil in My 903 once a week running 2500-3000 miles.

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Nick Hasson (Nhasson) on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 10:35 am:

Dennis Frisk, just scrolling back through the posts and came across your post regarding the 903 cummins. We had one years ago in a 10 ton military truck and the only thing it was good for was controlling the mosquitoe population. WOW, the smoke...changed injectors and normal maintenance and nothing but tons of smoke and boy did it suck down the fuel. We ended up putting a 3406 Cat in its place with a lot of modifications to the frame and tranny, but it was worth it... and cat yellow is close enough to CUB yellow. Nick

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Mick morgan (Memorgan) on Sunday, May 31, 2009 - 01:44 pm:

Just a couple of picks from our Test and tune day from Saturday. We pulled on a dirt road north of the sled owners house. This is a day to hook for every one to set up tractors and check the sled for proper adjustment. And just get to gether and have some fun.
Jery Hanson single altered

John Yodr twin 25 hp

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Ben P. Corn (Bcorn) on Saturday, May 23, 2009 - 10:53 am:

Thanks Kraig, a lot of fun went into this little guy and reworking the sled. Without any weight added the sled starts out at 1,340 lbs.

I made the runners from an old barn beam that we had on the farm.

Let's go pulling---------Pops

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Dennis Frisk (Dfrisk) on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 08:28 am:

TRAVIS - Nat'l Quarter-Scale pulling rules are in the back of the catalog from Midwest SuperCub. They probably have them on their website also.

Far as local pulling clubs or groups, They may or may NOT follow the Nat'l rules.

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Travis Poulsen (Tpoulsen) on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 05:55 pm:

do any of you guys know were i can find regulations if there are any because i have a few tractors sitting around and i would like to try making one into a puller if you have any info thanks

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Kraig McConaughey "Keeper of the Photos" (Kmcconaughey) on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 03:34 pm:

I'm posting this for Pops.


quote:

Tractor's name Bare Bones, Pops, the new sled that I restored for dead weight pulling, and our wonderful companion dog Juzzee.




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Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Rick Goodman Gatekeeper of the shop (Rgoodman) on Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 07:12 am:

It's been quiet here in central Ohio because it rained out 2 scheduled pulls here and 1 rain date
for our SEOGTPA club. We'll see what happens in 2 weeks!!

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Ben P. Corn (Bcorn) on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 12:11 pm:

You guys have been pretty quiet for way to long isn't anything going on in pulling land?

Last fall I started building a dead weight puller only; working an achieving a weight of 800 lbs. or less including myself which I have lost 28 lbs. Took several parts from different donors and making 1 good (hopefully) great tractor.

Well after painting, fixing, designing and a few choice firehouse words, got to the place Sunday it was ready for wiring. 1 wire at a time following the 106 schematic I proudly can say "Bare Bones" is alive. Been a winter project but with spring here and pulling starting soon the tractor and old man are all most ready to go.

Pictures soon I hope!

Pops

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Kyle Redlinger (Kredlinger) on Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 09:07 pm:

Not much as far as add ons to improve power, but if you open her up & do a little machine work ie: valve job, mill head, k361 cam then you'll have a bit more power out of the engine & that will pretty much burn up your few hun $$$

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Ryan Covert (Rcovert) on Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 03:37 pm:

I was talking about little addons to increase HP under a few hundred bucks. I would like to know the proper carb settings though.

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Kyle Redlinger (Kredlinger) on Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 04:49 pm:

Define run stronger? Minor adjustments are making sure carb is clean & adjusted properly as well as timing is correct. Head gasket is sealing up good, fresh fuel, good spark plug with proper gap, clean oil, clean air filter etc. These are all easy things to check on.

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Ryan Covert (Rcovert) on Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 04:17 pm:

I have a red 1282 what are some minor improvements I can make to this, to make it run stronger?

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Michael Lies (Mlies) on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 10:15 pm:

Megatech dyno is sold Thanks for all the help with it.

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Kyle Redlinger (Kredlinger) on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 08:43 pm:

Craig, you could shim the axle gears tighter to the spider gears so it will act somewhat like a limited slip. Only drawback is, when they are shimmed that tight, they will eventually wear very badly with alot of turning sharply.

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Kyle Redlinger (Kredlinger) on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 08:39 pm:

Michael, take a look at the hydro linkages from under the dash all the way to the side of the pump housing. You can tighten up some of the play to increase the throw. Also, with the fenders off, you really get a good look at each linkage rod & how you can make some more travel of the plate on the side of the housing for increased pressure & getting a bit more speed. I messed around with my 782 linkage for more speed with the snow blade on so I could get done faster & it's great! BUT! You also do more damage when you clip the side of the truck or hit the mailbox!

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Michael Johnston (Mjohnston) on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 06:20 pm:

I have an old 1450. I use it more for fun. I would like to modify it to increase the speed and reduce the noise. I thought about getting a golf cart, but the Cub is more fun. So basicly I am asking any tips on making my tractor quicker and quiter for cruising the neighborhood?

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Dennis Turner (Dturner) on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 09:06 pm:

Craig , I would go with a Midwest Super Cub unit , page 6 in paper catalog.

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Ben P. Corn (Bcorn) on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 07:54 am:

D. Ryan: There is a big difference and I could write a whole page but do not have time.

1st off stick to your local stock class (the wilder you get the more money it will cost you)the best thing I can offer is hook to the sled and go. Try 1st gear the first time and learn how to lean back then lean forwards to keep the front down. It takes a few pulls to expierment but it is a ball and learning is the best part.

Myself I love both pulls but find it hard to make a good dual tractor. My 1000 is a great stock running dirt puller but for dead weight I have trouble getting a good percentage unless I am just trying to win the heaviest load pulled trophy. Which I have done.

So all winter I have been building a 106 strictly for dead weight pulls. I want to get that little guy in around 750 lbs with me on it. Losing 30 lbs. myself (which I needed to do anyway) will help get there.

If there is anything I can help you with e-mail me at popcorn3023@yahoo.com and I'll be happy to share some experience.

Its a ball any type of pulling!!

Pops

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy D. Ryan Mull (Dmull) on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 09:04 pm:

Dennis - 3cyl Yanmar turbo diesel. My dad described it as the ugliest puke green he has ever seen, and he likes John Deere...so that must be bad.


There ARE Cubs in Florida!

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Craig Hardman (Chardman) on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 06:42 pm:

I am wanting to put a locker or limited slip in my cadet but Haven't found anything yet, does anyone know of one or what will work or
that I can modify to work?
I don't want to weld it because I still use it around the yard but need it locked or at least limited for the woods. Thanks

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Dennis Frisk (Dfrisk) on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 10:10 am:

RYAN - That doesn't look like a K-series Kohler in that Cub Cadet..... I hope a new paint job is planned.

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Darren Sterley (Dsterley) on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 07:56 am:

Good morning all
I have a question were finally getting a transfer sled in stead of a dead weight have any of you guys pulled both types of sleds?
I’ve never hooked to a transfer sled is there any thing I should do different from the dead weight I pull stock 12 hp 23/10.5/12 bar tires looking for any advise its going to be a learning experience this summer

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy D. Ryan Mull (Dmull) on Monday, February 23, 2009 - 10:02 pm:

My new tractor...

yanmar turbo cub


There ARE Cubs in Florida!

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Evan Wank (Ewank) on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 11:03 am:

Then it will look like this.
smoke
This is a 3 cyl Kubota though.
Dan Leffler in Indiana could help you. Not sure how to contact him.

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Dennis Frisk (Dfrisk) on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 07:45 am:

RYAN - Diesel engines normally operate with a VERY variable air/fuel ratios, WAY beyond the range of air/fuel ratio meters used with gasoline engines. Gas engines typically run from 10-11:1 at full load to around 14:1, maybe higher under vacuum & no-load. Diesel engines idle at 80-100:1 and depending on Your desired amount of "Smoke" can run down to 6-8:1. Best way to think if a deisel is "They burn fuel in direct relationship to the amount of torque they need to produce". The 903 cid Cummins V-8 that was in the semi-tractor I drove 25 yrs ago burned 1 gal/hr idling in winter, but could burn up to 20 gal/hr at it's 67 mph cruising speed, Even just a bit more like 24-25 gal/hr at full load.

I've never heard of anyone running an A/F ratio meter on a diesel but it might be interesting to see what it does. Typically people monitor boost PSI and pre-turbo EGT's, and when things start to get interesting they monitor intake air temp.

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy D. Ryan Mull (Dmull) on Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 02:48 pm:

Where can I find some info on yanmar diesel performance? I just bought a 3cyl w/turbo, but the pump has not been adjusted, and I need to figure out how to install an air/fuel ratio meter and adjust the pump properly.


There ARE Cubs in Florida!

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Michael Lies (Mlies) on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 08:39 pm:

Bruce are you sure that is what the guage is only rated at. If It wont do more than a 3.5 hp then I guess it wont be what I need. The only thing I could use it for is dialing in the rpm setting up the gov. Ill have to figure out what Im going to do with it takes up room in my shop dont need more of that. Thanks for the info from everyone.

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Ben P. Corn (Bcorn) on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 02:43 pm:

Nice addition to a shop!

Ok guys got the rear end welded up makes me happy.

Next question is what type of tach do you guys use brand name or what?

Ben but everybody calls me Pops

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Bruce Palsgrove (Bpalsgrove) on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 09:10 am:

It appears from what I can see in the picture that it's going to be to small for what you need. The torque gauge reads inch-pounds and looks like it goes to 60(?) so that's only going to be 5 lb-ft or 3.4hp at 3600rpms. A tad small for a 10hp engine.

Greg, I'm still waiting for some pictures of your Father's dyno setup?

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Brendan Brigham (Bbrigham) on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 11:26 pm:

Now that would be a sweet addition to my shop !
I've seen some articles about building one but didn't think much of it.
How much does one of those set someone back ?

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Greg Edwards (Gfedwards) on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 11:13 pm:

My father has a Land & Sea dyno. Actually 1 1/2. One is mounted in the floor of a flat car hauler trailer and is used for wheel dynoing garden tractors for pulling. The other is for crankshaft readings. The computer is shared between the two.

Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)View Post/Check IPDelete PostEdit PostBy Michael Lies (Mlies) on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 08:48 pm:

Ok Im trying this for the second time dont know why I cant post it. This is the electric dyno its missing the drive coupler and electric cord. Sorry for the cramped pictures my 127 engine is in pieces on top.
dyno 1
dyno 2
dyno 3

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